France, Islam, and Fantasy... | 25 comments (25 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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integration is a problem in France and an obvious failure, that was underlined by the 2005 riots. There has been failure to get rid of these social relegation zones, ghetto phenomena, with unemployment, school failure, etc. But the religious dimension doesn't come into play.

Doesn't this say that it is a race problem, and not a religious problem.

So, as we have said before: the riots were underclass youth, not Muslim youth. And, further on:

I thought I had read articles and studies that showed middle eastern youth have a much more difficult time in job interviews, when they are seen in person and seen to be of Middle Eastern heritage.

by wchurchill on Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 at 04:03:29 PM EST

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There is a race problem, clearly. Especially when it comes to police differentiating between "Arabs" and "white" people when checking id, etc.., or to get into certain jobs.

But it is often noted that having a bad address, from one of the lousy suburb, is enough not to get to the job interview.

Some of the projects now have such a bad reputation, lousy education, hard access by public transportation, that everybody is hit by discriminations. In this way the riots where not particularly racial.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 at 04:32:48 PM EST
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"Underclass youth" doesn't mean necessarily "white". There were whites among the rioters, as there were blacks and Arabs. Racism certainly plays a part, but it's even more than that a class phenomenon.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 at 04:44:46 PM EST
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France, Islam, and Fantasy... | 25 comments (25 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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