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In keeping with what I guess is the spirit of Eurotrib, perhaps I should withdraw my comment and explain that all  of this stuff is actually perfectly fair, cause you know, French people do bad things, and some are racist and stuff, so everything bad said about them is true.
by MarekNYC on Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 at 06:50:43 PM EST
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Come on...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 at 08:16:10 AM EST
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Sorry about that comment, let anger over an argument get away, and in any case I shouldn't bring a dispute from one thread over to another.
by MarekNYC on Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 at 01:26:13 PM EST
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It's OK. I (as many here) appreciate your contributions and I think we shouldn't rub salt on our respective wounds.

By the way, I agree with your comment above: we have a lot to learn from each others on the racism/integration issue. However, I don't think you can easily import "tools" from a very different model. For example, it is almost impossible to implement affirmative action based on race in the French model because this is not a criterion recognised in the French society (IMHO rightly so). However, it is possible to develop affirmative action-like schemes based on social or geographical criteria. In fact we started to do so recently, but it is insufficient. And, for sure enforcing much more harshly anti-discrimination laws is possible and necessary.

 

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 at 02:19:00 PM EST
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Please note that, before any argument on another thread, I gave your substantial comment above a 4, and am not about to take it back.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Mar 4th, 2007 at 03:53:00 PM EST
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