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According to HM Revenue & Customs, the UK median income before tax was 16 400 £ in 2004-2005

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by Melanchthon on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 11:34:25 AM EST
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Right, but when I say I don't see how anyone lives on less than £17k, I'm speaking of people in and around London.  As I said, £17k isn't bad in a city like Nottingham.  Let's assume two income earners and call it £35k, gross, for simplicity in 2006/7.  Deduct the personal allowance, which is, I think, about £5-6,000, and you get 20% on £30k.  So we're talking a bit under £30k in net income, right?

Not great, but not overwhelmingly terrible.  In Nottingham, that would probably get you a terraced house in a half-decent neighborhood between Lenton and the City Centre.  I don't have a great idea of what it gets you in London.  I know that a decent flatshare in the East End can be had for about £400/month, -- a fair bit of room, close to the Underground, etc -- but that's my only point of reference, since I've never lived there and haven't done much research on the city.  There may be stuff going for quite a bit less.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 12:14:33 PM EST
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Er... £23k is not "a bit under £30k".

The problem is the single person making £15k. They get to keep £12k so they have £1000 left after taxes. A studio flat in London will cost at least £500/mo. Add council tax, utilities, a monthly travelcard for at least £100/mo, food and clothing, and things start to get a little tight.

A couple sharing a 1 bedroom flat with two incomes are clearly much better off.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 12:22:48 PM EST
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A bit under £30k: £35k - £5k = £30k.  £30k x .8 = £24k.  Add the allowance to get about £29k.  Or is the fact that I'm not an accountant showing?

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 12:27:16 PM EST
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No, you're right. I think it's the fact I'm a mathematician that is showing. ;-)

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 01:31:08 PM EST
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I'm not sure, but I think it's safe to say that we'd make a horrible accounting partnership. ;)

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 09:07:32 AM EST
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It is, however, important to remember the erosion at PPP, as Mig has pointed out on numerous occasions.  A £30k combined income for a couple gets you more in America than it does in Britain, generally.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 12:24:30 PM EST
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