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The initial set of eligible cities was restricted to metro area populations of 1 million or more.
Moscow 14.6M London 12.6M Rhine-Ruhr 11.8M Paris 11.6M Istanbul 10.0M Randstad 6.62 M Madrid 6.10 M Frankfurt-Rhein-Main 5.29M Berlin 4.94M Barcelona 4.85M St. Petersburg 4.83M Milan 4.32M Hamburg 4.30M Athens 3.80M Rome 3.78M Saxon Triangle 3.50M Katowice 3.45M Birmingham 3.25M Naples 3.06M Warsaw 3.05M Kiev 3.00M Lisbon 2.76M Stuttgart 2.70M Manchester 2.51M Rhine-Neckar 2.50M Budapest 2.45M Munich 2.45M ALMa 2.45M Bucharest 2.14M
Already with high-speed line connection:
Noo Labour doesn't like trains, and finds the idea ridiculous. The Tories are raring to go, and even talking about Maglev. But as the opposition they don't have much experience of dealing with the clucking of treasury bean counters. So I would be surprised if the plans survive the onslaught of Sir Humphrey.
One problem for the UK is population density. The technology is straightforward enough - providing it's not Maglev - but the local politics are extremely complicated. You can be sure that whatever route is chosen there will be protests, court actions, and other legal issues which will create huge delays.
I suspect other parts of Europe may have similar issues.
It's taken nearly 25 years to get CTRL I+II built. Other rail schemes, like Crossrail, are still in legal limbo, even though they've been discussed for a similar period.
The other problem for the UK is that - unlike air - there's no effective pro-rail lobby. This is one area where the EU could itself a big favour by pushing strategic infrastructure planning across the whole of the EU zone, instead of leaving individual countries to come to their own individual arrangements, which might, or might not, join up at some point, if we're all lucky and think happy thoughts.
It's taken nearly 25 years to get CTRL I+II built.
After Maggie Thatcher's insistence on a private-financed project (wqhich the Major government at least turned into a PPP scheme). I submit that if a new high-speed line would be built in the West Coast corridor, there would be a lot of protests, but I would bet it would cause delays of significantly less than 25 years. (Also, with the use of some tunnels, maybe the bulk of potential protests could be avoided.)
The Tories are raring to go, and even talking about Maglev.
Heh, I missed that :-) My personal opinion is that when non-German politicians talk about Maglev, they aren't really serious (and the German ones only want it as prestige). *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
So to make it worthwhile, you'd have to go cross country. Which is where it gets very complicated.
The Tory Shadow Transport Minister went to see the German maglev system and is apparently quite serious. But considering the state of the technology and the distances, the idea is a little - shall we say...? - ambitious.
As for Crossrail - even though it's a relatively minor London commuter upgrade, the endless revisions and political reworkings it has been through are typical of UK rail projects that aren't controlled by a single authority.
Transport for London seems good at getting things done. And CTRL I+II have been managed successfully. But everything else is a mess, and there's really no strategic planning lead from the Dept of Transport at all - because cars are better, and air is better still, apparently.
One problem for the UK is population density. The technology is straightforward enough - providing it's not Maglev - but the local politics are extremely complicated. You can be sure that whatever route is chosen there will be protests, court actions, and other legal issues which will create huge delays. I suspect other parts of Europe may have similar issues.
The 10 largest metropolitan areas in Europe form a connected network except for Moscow and Istanbul. However, the list of metropolitan areas largest than 2M people includes Kiev, Bucharest and Krakow, and that is enough to connect the whole network.
Now, the issue of right of way is important. Basically, the 3h leg limit corresponds to roughly 900km, and it's hard to find 900 km in Europe without a largish city in the middle that will demand that the HST stop in them. Many European Countries are not even 900km across, so one could even find a national capital in between two nearest neighbours of the network.
Many Spanish regional governments insisted that the AVE had to go through some of their provincial capitals in order to collaborate with the Madrid-Valencia, Madrid-Sevilla or Madrid-Barcelona lines. In building a pan-European network, the national and regional governments would probably bargain similarly. "It's the statue, man, The Statue."
IOW, this does not include outer-suburban sprawl. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
The wikipedia list of largest Urban Areas in the European Union includes 63 areas larger than 750 thousand and 27 larger than 1.5 million, namely:
Paris 10.1M London 8.51M Madrid 5.56M Ruhr 5.32M Barcelona 5.08M Milan 4.28M Berlin 3.68M Rotterdam-The Hague 3.35M Athens 3.25M Naples 2.91M Upper Silesia 2.80M Lisbon 2.76M Cologne-Bonn 2.48M SouthRuhr-Duesseldorf-Wueppertal 2.38M Bucharest 2.30M Hamburg 2.29M Birmingham-Wolverhampton 2.28M Manchester 2.24M Budapest 2.23M Vienna 2.17M Warsaw 2.07M Brussels 1.98M Porto 1.80M Glasgow 1.75M Munich 1.66M Leeds-Bradford 1.52M
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