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Greed can be defined pretty mechanically, as seeking to maximalize some satisfaction or utilization. It is kind of compulsive algorithm.

A more tricky concept is "selfishness". To love yourself truely, you have to take care of long term perspectives as well. That implies planning, preferences, intention.

My definition of Gaia is a cybernetic system whose core functionality is preservation of livable conditions on Earth in the long term. The main characteristic of a cybernetic system is the perception-reaction cycle. It must be fascinating to pin down what things Gaia can perceive, and how can it respond. Above that, comes learning capacity, which means that things repeat themselves not so much because of causual forcings, but that there is a controlling code somewhere. How far fetched is that? There is something about holistic thinking...

[By the way, I'll be largely away next two weeks.]

by das monde on Thu Apr 12th, 2007 at 09:49:41 PM EST
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My definition of Gaia is a cybernetic system whose core functionality is preservation of livable conditions on Earth in the long term. The main characteristic of a cybernetic system is the perception-reaction cycle. It must be fascinating to pin down what things Gaia can perceive, and how can it respond. Above that, comes learning capacity, which means that things repeat themselves not so much because of causual forcings, but that there is a controlling code somewhere. How far fetched is that? There is something about holistic thinking...

Sophisticated thoughts...

Neuro science is finding similar ways of describing the systemic interactions in our own brains it seems. Brings up questions about the nature of intentionality and consciousness that we can relate to experientially while finding relational patterns as we learn more about our planet and its living biosphere.  You call to my mind Gregory Bateson's Steps to an Ecology of Mind and his discussion of deutero learning.  Big questions about the nature of the desire to control, it being a possible neurosis and all.

I'll look for you when you return.

"I would pillow myself on the stream, for I'd like to cleanse my ears" - Sun Chu (218-293) Chinese recluse

by Ren on Fri Apr 13th, 2007 at 12:31:11 PM EST
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There is something about holistic thinking...

I hope this does not relate to wholeness of the infinity.

Rutherfordian ------------------------------ RDRutherford

by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1 -at- msn -dot- com) on Fri Apr 13th, 2007 at 01:42:15 PM EST
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