How Can Royal Win | 45 comments (45 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: How Can Royal Win (4.00 / 2)

I think having progressive Americans come to Europe and disabuse people of the notion that America is paradise is very important.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 10:03:58 AM EST
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Re: How Can Royal Win (none / 1)

Very much so.

The main task of Codice, he says, is to educate French citizens about the way the economy works so they are better informed and less hostile.
The council plans a slick new website, pamphlets and campaigns in universities and schools.
Training journalists, says Fauconnier, is vital because economic stories are often covered in a one-sided way on French TV.
"When a factory closes or sheds jobs, for example, there are lots of emotional interviews with angry workers, but rarely any analysis of the reasons behind the company's decision."

I wonder who's funding them? Somehow I don't think they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts and a need to re-educate errant journalists.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 10:25:34 AM EST
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CODICE (none / 0)

The CODICE has been created and is funded by the French Ministry of Economy and Finance.

You can find more information on this page

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 11:31:06 AM EST
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If Katrina, Bush, America Invading Iraq etc. hasn't 'disabused people of the notion that America is paradise'; nothing I say will have a greater impact.

I may point out criticism of the US but it is a place where people can still come to and pursue their lives relatively freely when compared to other countries. The only class system in America is built on how much money you have which can make it possible for anyone to join as opposed to countries like the UK and France whose class systems are based on priviledge and which family you are part of.

by An American in London on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 10:29:03 AM EST
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Yes, but when I was in the US and I went to progressive rallies where the speaker was praising the European social model and the audience was going wild, I thought to myself these progressive speakers should tour the EU at least once, and talk to people, not just politicians.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 10:48:38 AM EST
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And do Europeans want the right to walk into any gun dealer's place and buy enough guns and ammo to start your own insurgency, no waiting period, few questions asked and no check to verfy if you answered the form truthfully? And, in the wake of the horrors at Virginia Tech, do Europeans want their politicians to proclaim that every man woman and child should carry a loaded gun from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to bed? And do Europeans want to live in such a society?

by Navy Vet Terp on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 06:52:26 PM EST
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Here is a link to a column from a year ago in The Observer which should shed some light on the health of the American economy and should warn anybody in France off of Sarko if they dont want to be avbused like many Americans. The most interesting statistic I have heard recently is the top 300,000 Americans earn more income than the bottom 150,000,000 Americans. Mindboggling and this is what Sarko wants to bring to France.The link to the column is:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,,1792399,00.html

by An American in London on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 10:44:05 AM EST
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the top 300,000 Americans earn more income than the bottom 150,000,000 Americans.

Delete "earn": insert "get"....

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 12:57:00 PM EST
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You mean like this?

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 12:43:25 PM EST
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Yes, something like that.

Of course, the United States is not vulnerable to the violent, total closing-down of the system that followed Mussolini's march on Rome or Hitler's roundup of political prisoners. Our democratic habits are too resilient, and our military and judiciary too independent, for any kind of scenario like that.

Give Naomi Wolf an A in civics.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 12:55:47 PM EST
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I didn't say I thought she'd done it well.

And I'd be more impressed, frankly, if she'd made these points in an American newspaper rather than a British one. But that is unlikely to happen, for reasons that probably have less to do with Naomi Wolf than with American newspapers....

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 01:02:06 PM EST
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But isn't the UK a better example of what's in store for France if they go the Sarko route? I mean, it would take a long time for France to have 10 million* people living (somehow) without healthcare, almost half a million* people in prison, and thousands* of French troops killed and maimed in Muslim civil wars. Not to mention not having ANY public transportation for 90% of the country.

Besides, for all our faults, we DO have a viable opposition party and a wealth of great possibilities to take over the country in 2008.

* I'm adjusting these figures to reflect that France has about 1/5 the population of the U.S.

by Matt in NYC on Tue Apr 24th, 2007 at 09:22:41 PM EST
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