Bear with a sore head. | 61 comments (61 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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Unluckily, there is always the draft.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 05:39:35 AM EST
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And Congress is trying to untie them as we speak.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 05:39:59 AM EST
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I don't think so. George W. Bush is on his last legs now. And I think if he tries to do something crazy, like bomb Iran, Robert Gates, who was put there by Poppy Bush and Carlyle to babysit W, will stop him.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 05:45:12 AM EST
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W is a symptom, not the disease. See you in 5 years.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 06:01:37 AM EST
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Sadly, you're right.

Reading this put the Obama creep factor over the top for me. Even allowing for the Overton Window in the US, this is a right wing position, sketched out by someone who either doesn't understand the last fifty years of foreign policy at all, or is playing to the mil-ind complex to reassure them that he's not going to take their toys and profits away.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 06:25:52 AM EST
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Sounds just like his 2004 convention speech: America is the last best hope of mankind, which is what any US politician must say in a foreign policy speech.

What does Obama actually stand for? Has he said anything surprising?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 06:32:33 AM EST
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No - but he did have a dig at the whole of dKos for, er, not saying anything surprising.

I don't think Obama likes real surprises.

My guess is that he's someone who knows how to display the local cultural signifiers of leadership without knowing how to do any actual leading. This is the only explanation I can think of for his popularity.

He's a lot like Bush from that point of view. And Blair too, more or less.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 06:53:09 AM EST
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Has he said anything surprising?
No - but he did have a dig at the whole of dKos for, er, not saying anything surprising.

I mean ever, not in his latest speech.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 07:01:10 AM EST
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He's not related to David Cameron, by any chance?

There appears to be the same amount of substance in both.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 07:47:02 AM EST
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That Cameron - he seems like such a nice man.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 07:49:05 AM EST
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Even allowing for the Overton Window in the US, this is a right wing position, sketched out by someone who either doesn't understand the last fifty years of foreign policy at all, or

Wikipedia: Obama's early life and career

After graduating from Punahou, Obama studied at Occidental College for two years, then transferred to Columbia University, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations.

or is playing to the mil-ind complex to reassure them that he's not going to take their toys and profits away.

He probably knows he needs to pander to the Military-Industrial complex if he wants to look presidential and (more importantly) be allowed to win.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 08:07:57 AM EST
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I have this feeling that whoever's elected president [...] when you win, you go into this smoky room with the twelve industrialist, capitalist scumfucks that got you in there, and this little screen comes down... and it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before, which looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll.... And then the screen comes up, the lights come on, and they say to the new president, 'Any questions?' ...

[President]: 'Just what my agenda is.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 08:45:38 AM EST
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Oh, no, it's easier than that. The agenda is internalised and if you haven't you won't be allowed to win, the media will destroy your campaign.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 08:52:05 AM EST
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