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I have provided a link to the article, put some of the text in a blockquote and cut the rest.

It is really bad form to copy and past full articles; the usual blogging practice is to provide a link, a reasonable extract (a few paragraphs) clearly identified as such, and whatever commentary or questions you may have.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 09:26:31 AM EST
I apologize for using the entire story in the body of the diary. I temporarily forgot what is the correct protocal since I have noticed you have about 10 stories posted, at best daily, and didn't think it was an imposition to place the entire story in the diary.
by An American in London on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 10:03:46 AM EST
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As I understand it, there are copyright issues involved. Posting the entire story could be construed as beyond any conceivable fair use (= copyright violation), particularly when not attributed.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 10:08:35 AM EST
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There are no copyright issues involved in posting an entire story unless there is a profit motive involved whether by the poster or the website where the story is posted. Since this site is a non profit site, as opposed to others; there is no issue in posting columns, stories etc.
by An American in London on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 10:13:45 AM EST
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... electronic copyright laws? There certainly is no not-for-profit exclusion in the US for making more than fair use of copyrighted material, unless the copyright holder explicitly permits the not-for-profit use of the material.

Of course, at one time in the not to distant past, there was advertising on this site, which would have made the point moot.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 10:43:27 AM EST
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There's barely any concept at all of fair use in the UK.

Posting an entire article is certainly not a good idea, in any case.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 10:54:13 AM EST
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... against a libel suit, I would be very surprised if the UK had the same idea as fair use as the US.

Of course, when Dickens toured the US, he was first thrilled by his reception, until he found out that so many Americans read his works because they were available in cheap pirated editions ... on which point he became outraged.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 01:20:08 PM EST
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If the original content is for profit, reposting in full takes away revenue from the publisher whether or not it's reposted for profit.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 10:58:41 AM EST
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The Reuters copyright notice says, in part:

Users may download and print extracts of content from this website for their own personal and non-commercial use only.

(It's in a popup box that won't work as a link, but it's at the bottom of every Reuters page.)

Incidentally, although IANAL, I find it somewhat vague as to whether this sort of use is permissible, but I don't really want to go there.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 11:03:11 AM EST
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ET may be non-commercial, but it is not personal. IANAL, etc.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 11:15:41 AM EST
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Ah. But what is more personal than a diary? ;-)

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt št gmail dotcom) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 11:28:31 AM EST
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True, one could argue one's diary is one's own personal blog.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 11:30:07 AM EST
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... but a whole article is not an "extract of content", which reinforces current Eurotrib policy.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 01:22:08 PM EST
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It's not a big deal, but we do try to be careful in general on ET, and it's also a way to encourage original content!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 11:15:25 AM EST
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This sort of stuff usually goes into the Salon, anyway.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 at 11:16:28 AM EST
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