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I disagree. I also home brew a considerable range of beer styles, so a phillistine of any sort on that front I'm not.

You didn't really answer my point about southern germany, home of hefe's, and the places I was were decidedly not flashy wine bars, but solid local drinking holes, because I was with southern german friends. So I remain unconvinced.

The Sangria comparison is a very poor one, because as you correctly point out, it's a way of turning lesser quality wine into a pleasing summer drink - ie seriously altering or masking the original taste. However if you want to make a truly spectacular sangria, using a nice rose and omitting the lemonade and any other cheap fizzy is an entirely different experience.

It's quite possible to compliment and highlight the taste of various beverages by adding another flavour which enhances the original qualities. Lemon does that for a good heffe, and does nothing to disguise the taste of a poor one, in fact it simply makes it more acid.

I enjoy drinking hefe both ways, depending on the particular characteristics. I personally find people who are fundamentalist in their views on how certain things should be drunk rather silly, as they miss the fact that humans are endlessly creative with our food and drink, and half the delight is finding new ways to enjoy excellent products.

"This can't possibly get more disturbing!" - Willow

by myriad (imogenk at wildmail dot com) on Tue May 29th, 2007 at 07:14:17 PM EST
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I stand by my original point. My personal view is that the lemon is so intrusive that it buries any individual quality that the beer may have. It could be the best beer in the world, it could be Holsten or Heineken, who could tell ?

I'm not against the idea of adding flavours entirely. Berliner Weisse is traditionally served with wormwood extract and I enjoy the beer either with or without. Indeed I'll confess a childish pleasure in drinking a glass of luminous green liquid. However, it is my view that it enhances the original flavour, whilst lemon buries it entirely.

As for germans drinking it with lemon. So what ? People do it all over the world, it's just an affectation born of distaste or indifference for the actual quality of the beer. Not every german cares anymore than most brits do.

But I care. Call me rude. (Why not ? It's true and my friends list is appropriately limited). Call me a beer snob, whatever. Lemon in beer offends me because it's not just unnecessary, it's ruinous. Especially where it is the default in a bar and you end up being made to feel you're at fault for asking for another beer without the lemony thing in it.

Of course I know mine is a minority opinion but I simply do not understand why anybody would spend the extra for a premium beer and then render it indistinguishable from the cheapest crappiest beer in the bar.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 06:49:35 AM EST
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