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Crazy old men. Someone take away that damn table already.

It doesn't even need to be said that this is all quite, quite Kubrick/Strangelove mad.

Let's say Iran gets the bomb. Then what? Does anyone really believe it's going to start lobbing nukes at Tel Aviv or London, just because it can?

Given the retaliation, what would be the point?

Meanwhile Musharraf's tottery regime which already has nukes is edging closer and closer to imploding. If anyone's going to nuke Tel Aviv it's not going to be Tehran.

A cynic might think this is really about systematically eliminating or enclosing oil non-vassal states with significant oil reserves. But I'm sure that can't possibly be the real reason for the rhetoric.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 10:14:42 AM EST
A cynic might think this is really about systematically eliminating or enclosing oil non-vassal states with significant oil reserves.

There's no way the US can sustain this attempt and remain a democracy.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 10:22:37 AM EST
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It sure can. The only thing needed is that the American people support and vote for such monstrous policy. They did that in 2004...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 01:06:06 PM EST
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No people would be so asinine as to support another war that's even bigger, messier, costlier and bloodier. It would demand a draft, gas prices would go through the roof, the economy going down, the government becoming bankrupt, the entire region out of control - I mean, come on, it's impossible to support it.
But then, I could not imagine Bush becoming re-elected.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 01:39:52 PM EST
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Either a draft or the open use of nuclear weapons.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 01:41:40 PM EST
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We were told most people really didn't want to reelect Bush in 2004, but the Democrats gave them no choice.  Though I managed to vote Democratic in 04, I can identify with the the difficulties many who voted for Bush faced. Strange as it may seem, I can almost see the Democrats doing it again in 08.  It will be easy for me to vote Democratic given the current field.


I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 10:35:30 PM EST
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Sorry, meant to say it wiil not be easy for me to vote Democratic in 08...

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 10:37:34 PM EST
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Maybe that's true in the abstract, but Americans are today actually three peoples:

I. 100 million people with a highly developed sense of civil and human rights, who struggle to find ways to implement policies that will make the U.S. and the world better places -- "struggle" because this is NOT easy in the U.S. We love to talk about those wonderful people "who've made a difference" but realistically almost no one ever does.

II. 100 million people, 50% of whom are too stupid, too uninformed, too self-satisfied, too fat and lazy -- and another 50% of whom who are too overworked, too oppressed, too focused on their own and their family's survival to keep politically informed, let alone vote. (It may seem unfair to lump these two groups together but they share the same vulgar "culture" and the same allergy to voting.)

100 million people who love war, all varieties of violence but especially torture, hate dark-skinned people, dream of bigger and bigger tax cuts (that will never benefit 99% of this group, but, hey, it's fun to fantasize), have scientific beliefs almost identical to those of 11th century Europeans, think Christ is about to swoop down and carry them naked into Heaven anyway, so what do a few Armageddon's matter?  

This is why I have no patience with generalizations like "Americans are a good people" or even "America is a great nation." Well, one third of us are, but we lost our country a long time ago and we're having a very hard time taking it back.

by Matt in NYC on Sat Jun 16th, 2007 at 11:29:37 AM EST
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No, it can't. Short of escalating internal destruction (and we've had none since 9-11) fear based politics require a very steep increase in the rate of saber rattling to function as a rhetorical tool, and right now it's close to burned out (look at how desperate this article is). This is a near term last gasp, not the start of the apocalypse.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed May 30th, 2007 at 01:47:16 PM EST
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