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I would have thought that the left wing of the PS would let her know of elements of what Jerome describes. It seems to me that if she isn't bringing it up it's per choice, but I'd be happy to be wrong. As for the language of framing, I just don't understand why we let rightwingers use terms like "assistanat" unchallenged in a public debate (it makes my blood boil! :) Seriously, we already concede half the battle if we accept the dichotomy between public subsidy and welfare.

Whatever happens on Sunday, Jerome should certainly keep peddling his excellent work on this topic (and others of course ;). It may even be more necessary to spread it on monday; although, I am an optimist.

by Fete des fous on Fri May 4th, 2007 at 04:20:07 PM EST
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You can't stop them and by using the term you validate their stasis.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri May 4th, 2007 at 06:41:27 PM EST
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They'll only stop if the political price for using it becomes too great. It seems that what "validates" the argument is the history and degree of acceptance of the perspective by the public, which is almost a given considering the role the media plays in propagandizing the commonly held view. Unfortunately, after several decades of seeing progressives ignore the media-propped anti-fiscality/anti-government/anti-welfare discourse of neoliberals I have come to believe that it is better to disconstuct their framing as it occurs to point out the glaring inconsitensies. Once their discourse has taken hold of a large fraction of the public, such as appears to be the case in France right now, we are better off attempting to demonize their disocurse to make them weary of using it. That's my take on it :)
by Fete des fous on Fri May 4th, 2007 at 07:43:47 PM EST
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Thus the importance of Kellogg's series on Rhetoric, found on the diary list ------>

ThatBritGuy, sometime ago, posted the existence of an everpresent stream of press releases from Right Wing Thinktanks and the paucity, or non-existence, of such from the Left.  

Until we learn how to engage both effectively and consistently we're gonna get our arses handed to us.

This is getting too Off Topic, for me, so I'll let you have the last word, should you want it.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat May 5th, 2007 at 12:24:16 PM EST
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I would have thought that the left wing of the PS would let her know of elements of what Jerome describes. It seems to me that if she isn't bringing it up it's per choice,

It's possible. In fact, the European socialists are full of people like Pedro Solbes who are reputed to be "good" economists, but that usually means they are "mainstream" economists and they usually believe what they say. Which means they have all drunk the kool-aid, and they read the FT and The Economist and take them seriously.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 5th, 2007 at 04:41:09 AM EST
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