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Oh man...

Shall I tell you about our local football team?  Shall I?

Okay.  Very quick.  Most people in Brighton have no interest in football.  As a friend of mine says, "More people go swimming on a Saturday than watch football."  Or is it "More people watch swimming, when it's on the telly."


Football is a bizness.  Have you heard the latest seat prices?

But, and yet, we have our football fans (The Goldstone Ground!)...and okay, why not?  But our stadium (The mighty...er Withdean) is...not up to the job.  So they want to build a new one.

Guess where.

Next to the large A27 where it cuts through the South Downs.  Just about opposite Sussex University.  Across the road from Falmer Village.

What do the people from Falmer Village think?

(They will give you resigned shrugs.)

How big do they want to build this stadium?

To seat 23,000 people.

Because yes, of course, Brighton needs more people!  We are sardines and we demand to be jammed ever closer into our tins!

So...an LLP stadium.  A great idea!  Them's that want it can invest in it and reap the rewards...as they struggle to lose against Lowestoft...

Although the idea is that with a proper stadium, more people would turn up, more money = better players = better position.

So yeah!  Create an LLP and it may become a virtuous circle.

Turns out, though, that the proposed site of the stadium comes under LEWES council's remit, and they said no.  So it went to...yes!...John Prescott

How was he supposed to weigh that one up?

In other news, I read today that our burglary rate has dropped by 57% (!)  The reason?  The police have been nabbing all the heroin addicts.

A bloke who ran a couple of central takeaway places got nicked a while back for having a heckuva lot of ecstacy (actually I think it was cocaine) in a warehouse out in the countryside.

Housing is interesting down here.  They can't by law build anywhere (good!) so every available space is triple parked.  the loft conversion business has (check out the roofs without veluxes) a good few years to run...

..but the much publicised eco-build near the station turns out to be...a normal build, with a couple of carbon-neutral palaces built on the edge.  Asking price: if your bank balance (or salary times three) doesn't go up to seven figures, don't ask.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Fri May 4th, 2007 at 08:40:06 PM EST
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(I must add, for the sake of clarity, that the eco-palaces are in the millions.  By law the new build had to incorporate one third affordable housing.  Housing association buys one half, you buy the other half, when you sell you owe the association what they put in or half the sale value, whichever is higher.)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Fri May 4th, 2007 at 08:47:57 PM EST
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I would never claim a vote for another party was a wasted vote (unless I was trying to squeeze that vote for partisan advantage - politics is an opportunistic activity).

What we need is proportional representation so people can vote for the party they really support. Under first past the post the tendency is for the elector to vote for the least bad of the two parties which are perceived to be in first and second place locally. That is what makes the wasted vote argument effective.

I am glad to see from the above posts that Brighton has a vibrant local political culture, even if it causes problems for my party.

by Gary J on Sat May 5th, 2007 at 10:19:00 AM EST
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What are the chances that your vote affects anything? Really? So most votes are wasted anyway, so why not vote as I want you too...

I think the whole "wasted vote" thing does not hold up in any reasonably large constituencies unless the goal is to have voted for the winner and thus be on the winning team.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat May 5th, 2007 at 05:17:26 PM EST
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In the UK the wasted vote argument was traditionally used to squeeze the votes of minor parties (like the Liberals - regarded as a minor party since circa 1924 by the Conservative and Labour parties). It was more effective in a first past the post election to fill a single place, than it would be in a proportional representation election to fill multiple seats.

The refinement, since the Liberal/Alliance/Liberal Democrats became a significant electoral factor in 1974, is that the third party realised it too could deploy the wasted vote argument whenever it was perceived to be one of the two leading parties in a constituency.

Small numbers of votes can be significant. I myself witnessed a local election in Slough when two candidates were tied and a seat was awarded on a throw of dice. UK parliamentary elections, since universal suffrage, have produced majorities as low as two.

by Gary J on Tue May 8th, 2007 at 08:49:06 AM EST
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