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What you have to say about Incapacity benefit, during the 80's and 90's I had occasion to visit many unemployment benefit offices. It wasn't unusual for the benefit officer to quietly ask if your doctor would be willing to sign you onto the sick, then you could avoid the quiet indignity of the fortnightly questionaire from a spotty sixteen year old who appeared to have aquired his on the job training from the hitler youth. In fact  became a standing joke amongst the local layabouts that there must be a standing policy to reduce the figures by getting us off their books and onto the books of the department of health. now this would have been  late eighties/early nineties, can't be more precise than that because I never took them up on the kind offer.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 12:55:06 PM EST
Late eighties/early nineties fits with the accounts and numbers given for this. That was the time when most people left unemployment for IB. However, the numbers have not gone down since...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 12:58:56 PM EST
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I know that in Wales the higher disability related unemployment figures are partly due to the decline in industry - mining, steel etc. Many miners left with genuine long term health problems, and also mental health problems/depression resulting from the loss of the only type of work they were skilled for, economic decline and increased poverty in mining communities, loss of community identity and so on.

Excellent and very comprehensive diary, afew. I'll try to read through it in more detail once I get my next essay out of the way!

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 01:06:05 PM EST
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I suggest reading Beatty and Fothergill on the regional occurrence - it's the old industrial regions that are concerned, of course. And the Welsh Valleys among the most concerned.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 01:11:40 PM EST
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Quite a few of the people who did take it up were long term unemployed, in their late twenties/early thirties, who were on the point of becoming institutionalised into unemployment/ on sink estates in run down mining villages/steel towns. Now they would, if their life is still running the same way be twenty years older and unemployable, so there's no personal reason for them to come off the sick for another 15 years.

Another factor I seem to remember was at this time there was a thing in the news saying that benefit officers were to get cash bonuses to reduce the number of people on the books, and there was an undercurrent among the consumers that it wasn't considered to be that important how the numbers were reduced.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jun 1st, 2007 at 01:11:09 PM EST
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