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the debate was about whether Sarkozy's policies are, as i caricature them only a bit, to take from the poor to give to the rich, and whether he is a fascist with his anti-immigrant drives and fearmongering (that's where they called me not-credible, when I called on his fascist leanings by making Le Pen's ideas mainstream).

The other point is that they see the PS as being unreformed, marxist and hopelessly out of touch.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2007 at 04:49:23 PM EST
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I really wonder if I live in the same world as people who think the PS is unreformed and marxist. (which seems to be the general opinion in most of the French Blogosphere that's a bit to the right of Fabius...)

I could understand this for people that were over 20 years old in 1981, when the PS nationalised, but as a young'un, it took me quite some time to understand that then the PS was actually strongly on the left at the time, not the party of "a little bit of redistribution to the poor, please" in the middle of the neo liberal market that I knew for most of my life.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2007 at 05:53:35 PM EST
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The idea that Europe's Social Democrat and Labour parties are "left" in an absolute sense just indicates how far right the Overton window has shifted.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 19th, 2007 at 05:57:17 PM EST
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