Wind power: some lessons from 2006 | 18 comments (18 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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windpower is [...] reaching a stage where it becomes a noticeable source of electricity in a number of countries.

Which is really great and what ultimately matters.

Just don't build the damn things near me.

P.s. A large fraction of Swedish wind power projects have been suspended in the last year as turbine prices have shot up due to the scarcity of manufacturing capacity. In the long run it should work okay, but this tells us that the wind potential is weaker in Sweden than in other countries as the limited number of turbines are not deployed here, in spite of generous subsidies.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sun Jun 3rd, 2007 at 12:10:20 PM EST
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"just don't build the damn things ." (none / 0)

are you willing to sit in the dark instead? Shoulder your share of the burden maybe?

by HiD on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 at 05:44:19 AM EST
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Re: "just don't build the damn things ." (none / 1)

No, he'll happily live next to a nuclear reactor.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 at 05:45:03 AM EST
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Re: "just don't build the damn things ." (none / 1)

Exactly. And they can store the spent fuel in my basement if they feel like it.

By the way, I just read an interesting article. Swedish wind power is 1 TWh per year. Geothermal energy (heat pumps) is 10 TWh. Wind still gets 10 times the publicity. Wind farms are just so much more sexy and photogenic than some small holes in the ground.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 at 08:01:11 AM EST
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I almost said you'd happily use cooling water from a reactor as hot water for your home ;-)

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 at 08:45:38 AM EST
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Re: "just don't build the damn things ." (4.00 / 2)

Might as well if the @!&% reactor is close enough to cook you anyway if something goes wrong. They have been selling vacation and retirement homes near the Lake Anna plant near here for years. Lots of folks share the lake with the reactors. Spooky.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 at 10:41:15 PM EST
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The staff at Forsmark nuclear power plant often bath in the cooling water which is released into a lagoon before it enters the sea. The water is about 30 degrees Celsius in the summer, and never goes below 10 degrees, even in winter. So with a sauna close at hand, you can bath there all the year round. :)

Ah, and I remember when they prematurely shut down the two 600 MW reactors at Barsebäck, the local fishermen complained noisily. Rare fish from more southern waters flourished just outside the plant. Not any more. :(

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 08:34:29 AM EST
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Do you know that most salmon-farms in France are located in the effluents of EDF nuclear plants ? They don't advertise this too much, but it's no secret either. Serious boost to productivity.

Pierre

by Pierre on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 09:55:20 AM EST
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We had a small subterranean reactor, about 50 MW, supplying both hot water and power in the Stockholm suburb Farsta. It was shut down in 1973 due to low oil prices. Whoops.

Anyway, when it was shut down and replaced with oil the locals complained thy couldn't hang their clothing out to dry anymore, as it became covered in soot.

Several times it has been argued we should heat our cities with the cooling water of our big reactors, but due to political reasons it never happens. We'll see what happens post peak.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 08:36:00 AM EST
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Wind power: some lessons from 2006 | 18 comments (18 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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