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Except Geißler is no libertarian.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 01:22:53 AM EST
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Paleoconservatives are not libertarian.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 04:57:47 AM EST
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Some are, or at least call themselves so to distinguish themselves from neocons. I got this from reading AntiWar.com during the initial year of the Iraq war.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 07:11:11 AM EST
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I think Paleoconservatism and Paleolibertarianism are better descriptors, and non-overlapping categories. They share their opposition to the neocons:
Notably, [Pat Buchanan] developed professional ties with openly gay paleolibertarian Justin Raimondo, due to their common Old Right anti-war views.


Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 07:20:23 AM EST
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Interesting, thanks.

Paleolibertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Political alliances with paleoconservatism. The two groups are closely related, although they sometimes quarrel over the virtues of free trade, Wal-Mart and other issues. For example, paleolibertarians tend to praise Patrick Buchanan for his stances on foreign policy, yet accuse him of protectionism. Conversely, paleoconservative Sam Francis argued that big business should serve the interest of middle America [1]. Both sides prefer to attack their mutual opponents than each other, however.

I again get the sense though that the names and content of ideological movements are very fluid.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 07:40:35 AM EST
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In the quoted article FAZ had a nice term for them that made me laugh: "Betonköpfe"  ("concrete-heads").   Did they make that up or is that really a word in common European parlance for "die-hard reactionaries"?
by NHlib on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 10:04:41 AM EST
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It means "people who aren't able to change their position no matter what happens". Not used often, though.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 11:51:00 AM EST
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Mayber usage varies across regions (and generations)? I am quite familiar with it, both in Hungarian and German, though in both, primary usage was for top bureaucrats and leaders under 'communism'. According to what I found with a little Googling, the usage may originate withg Wolf Biermann.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 01:52:38 PM EST
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At any rate, this is a different vita from Geißler's:

Paul Craig Roberts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He was Distinguished Fellow at the Cato Institute from 1993 to 1996. He was a former Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution. ...During 1981-82 he served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy. President Reagan and Treasury Secretary Regan credited him with a major role in the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, ...he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill [a tax cut] and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy.

In 1987 the French government recognized him as "the artisan of a renewal in economic science and policy after half a century of state interventionism" and inducted him into the Legion of Honor on March 20, 1987.

..."In their hatred of "the rich," the left-wing overlooks that in the 20th century the rich were the class most persecuted by government. The class genocide [in communist societies] of the 20th century is the greatest genocide in history." [7]

Though here he attacks opponents as "libertarians" in third person, many consider Roberts a libertarian himself. Roberts' opposition to the ruling order is Iraq first, economy second. Geißler's is economy first, religion second.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 at 07:35:33 AM EST
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