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Understand, but make that veto right happen and you could just wind up with an organization that is far more effective than the UN ever could be and for a lot less cost and effort.  Following the US's recent foreign policy and military disasters in the Middle East, a new American administration might be willing to work out a new agreement on NATO's organization.  Who knows, it would be worth a try.  Modern post-WWII Europe is coming of age economically and should be in a better position to press for more favorable  consideration.  In such a context Europe could play an important role in moderating the US's tendency towards rash and self-defeating foreign policies while cooperating on sound mutually agreeable activities.   Just a thought.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Jun 9th, 2007 at 11:16:11 PM EST
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You're reinventing the Blair solution. And we know how well that worked.

NATO is Washington's personal pocket flick-knife, and will do what Washington says. If there's a lunatic in Washington, as now, then NATO will be used to do stupid things for stupid reasons.

Washington has no interest in giving Europe a democratic voice in how NATO is run. The only thing that might catch Washington's attention is if individual countries start leaving.

A major block on the UN becoming toothier is US contempt for the UN. Washington considers the UN another useful and occasional aid to foreign policy, but doesn't pay any attention when its interests are challenged.

If the US rolled NATO into a joint international peacekeeping force at the UN, there would be much more chance of the UN becoming an effective force.

But this is the last thing Washington wants, so unless the strategic balance changes in a way that makes it obvious that Washington can't survive without the UN, this is never going to happen.

I agree with the suggestion of sanctions, but obviously that's not going to happen either - at least not unless enough people in the West decide to start treating the US as they treated South Africa before apartheid ended.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jun 10th, 2007 at 05:33:17 AM EST
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Guess you're stuck with both a useless UN and an overbearing NATO with the US being at fault for both. Keep trying to convince European countries to leave NATO. That would at least solve half of your problem. I can't think of a good approach to make the UN a useful military force, at least at the moment.  With China and the rest of the energy needy world making love to every oil rich despot you'll never get morally necessary action from the Security Council.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Jun 10th, 2007 at 10:40:37 PM EST
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