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When you start to think of Democracy, Economics, Communism etc. as technologies, the answer is pretty clear IMHO: you need to develop a new "government technology". The EU and the UN could be the beginning of an new form of political organisations (the technology of "supra-nationalism") which then evolves into something new again. It's not like the applicable theories "soft sciences" produces are that much different from the ones produced by "hard sciences".

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Thu Jul 12th, 2007 at 05:21:30 AM EST
The EU and UN as currently constituted are part of the problem, not the solution IMHO.

Nothing top down is going to work, I suspect.

"Infra-nationalism" maybe: networked and definitely post - Nation State.

"Organisations" are not needed: frameworks within which we may "self-organise" are what is now possible, and lead to the possibility of a State which is not distinct from its citizens.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Jul 12th, 2007 at 04:16:31 PM EST
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Nothing top down is going to work, I suspect.

you-n-me both.  the culture of domination is the problem.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Jul 12th, 2007 at 08:19:10 PM EST
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If you're thinking in the very long term - maybe. It's an optimistic outlook, but certainly possible. However, I think supra-nationalism will arrive first.

"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality." Ché

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Fri Jul 13th, 2007 at 01:15:37 AM EST
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A "new 'government technology'" would surely involve innovations in applying new information technologies to governance. I would like to see far more innovative thought and discussion regarding how this might work and what systems we should aim to create. Knowledge is power, and systems that create different patterns of knowledge help create different patterns of power.

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by technopolitical on Sun Jul 15th, 2007 at 01:14:40 PM EST
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