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Quite likely: who here has the slightest interest in being in that group?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 07:07:20 AM EST
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  1. who here has strong group identification?
  2. who here is willing to stop at nothing to take control of their group?


Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 07:10:14 AM EST
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  1.  Almost all.
  2.  "take control" is pretty scary, but spread out and accept some roles, not so much, if there is a common, clear plan.


Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 02:41:07 PM EST
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Which suits them just fine, as long as we don't rock the boat too much.

We all bleed the same color.
by budr on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 07:57:28 AM EST
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French technocrats with delusions of grandeur?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:34:19 AM EST
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New boss, same as the old boss?

Sort of the point I was trying to make in diary on world leadership.

It the words of the Reverend Falwell.

Hate the sin, not the sinner.

I wonder what St. Peter told him when he got to the gate.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 10:26:07 AM EST
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Yup, you do have what it takes to become a successful politician ;-)

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 11:39:42 AM EST
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No I don't, sadly.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 03:22:21 PM EST
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What do you think you are missing that cannot be covered by a team member?  

In other words, nobody has every quality, much less well-known politicians, but the idea is that someone else has it covered.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 02:40:44 PM EST
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I don't have it in me to fuck over other people to get to the top - or to the front. Or, that if I do, I don't want (and don't plan) to use it. And it seems unlikely that you be a good politician (i.e. an elected, influential one) without that ability.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 06:33:01 PM EST
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Strange that you'd say "sadly" and not "fortunately", then ;-)

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 06:43:12 PM EST
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when you consider the goal (reaching power to change things), but fortunately when you consider the means.

Isn't that the curse of "good people"? (to be ruled by those people that did what it took to gain power)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 06:57:44 PM EST
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"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

"I did," said Ford. "It is."

"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

by Nomad on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 05:25:05 AM EST
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Are you saying that in the short run we are all dead? ;)

You are describing what we are used to, as a "good politician", but it´s not and I believe another way really IS possible, or I wouldn´t be here.  I ass-u-me most here believe it also and could post about positive qualities.

Give yourself some credit.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 02:55:36 PM EST
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