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That's not quite what I mean. If the French narrative is anything like the British one, it's going to lack the overt cheerleading 'It's all a melting pot' advertising that the US narrative has.

The key difference seems to be that patriotism is still a mainstream value in the US. We're much more suspicious of it in Europe. Aside from the racists, hardly anyone in the UK considers themselves patriotic, except in a negative 'At least we're not European' sense.

I'd guess - based on speculation - that France and Germany are mid-way between the two.

Without patriotism there isn't really anything to be assimilated into.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:14:02 PM EST
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There's really no patriotism in Germany as in France. When there's no World Cup around, you won't see any flags - and there's no general feeling of pride to be German. But it's a different thing about the integration of immigrants, we just don't get that right. But these two things don't seem to be directly connected.

/ After 9/11, Gerhard Schröder declared "We're all Americans now" and I was like "Huh? I'm having enough trouble with being German, thank you."

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Wed Jul 18th, 2007 at 02:07:38 AM EST
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