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I see this movie as the statement of someone who dearly wants to piss off his old man yet still wants to be taken seriously by him.

I remember watching this movie the summer before my senior year of high school with my two best friends.  We had no idea what to expect.  We quickly fell into a trance as we watched it.  Afterwards, we knew it was unlike any movie we had ever seen, and were frustrated because though we sensed a profound message in it, we were baffled as to what it was.

I would love to read a diary elucidating your cheeky preacher's kid interpretation of the film.

In the film, "The Good Shepherd" there is an incredibly descriptive exchange ...

Yes, that scene, and what Damon's character says at the end of it, hit me hard, too, because at first, it seemed to have the ring of sinister truth to it.  But upon reflection, it strikes me as too pat paranoid-conspiratorial.  Even for that period.  The supremacy of Anglo-Saxons in the U.S. power establishment has been on the way out since the beginning of the last century.  (No doubt it was Eric Roth's intended irony that James Jesus Angleton was half Mexican.)  If there are "Anglo-Saxons" in the upper echelons of the U.S. elite who are still trying to ensure Anglo-Saxon supremacy in their country, they are loons.  They will eventually fade into the permanent irrelevance where they belong.

The strength of the U.S. -- and the West in general -- is in its inclusive diversity.  One generation ago, a marriage between an Italian Catholic and an Irish Catholic in Boston was considered a "mixed marriage".  Today such a notion would be quaint to say the least.  It will take a long time, but eventually the U.S., and the planet, will get to a point where Edward Wilson's mindset of ethnic supremacy and hierarchy will be as outdated as believing that the world is flat.

Yet they had two things in common--both were Swedes and both were bitterly opposed USA involvement in World Wars I AND II.

Was this due to a typically Swedish strain of pacifism?  I vaguely recall a diary or discussion thread that dealt with modern Sweden's traditionally pacificist political outlook (though I may be mistaken).  Is there a conventional wisdom as to where this pacifism emerged from?

I also wondered how anyone who enjoyed Bergman's "frivolous" movies and read Thorstein Veblen for fun was ever supposed to fit into W's America.  The short answer is, we are not designed to fit in.

The operative word being W's.  America is a work in progress.  We -- you and I, everybody -- are designed to fit in that America, the one that we must continue deliberately to evolve with hard work and perseverance.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Mon Aug 13th, 2007 at 05:43:22 AM EST

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