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say the surge is a failure and the US needs to withdraw

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2007 at 03:33:48 PM EST
It all depends on what the criteria for success is when you measure the "effectiveness" of the surge. If you mean reality-based criteria then you detail things like deaths and security and political advance.

But this is the Bush White House where success is never having to admit you're wrong. So they kidded everybody for 9 months with this strategy. Next there'll be the "too soon to tell" strategy, that'll keep them going for another 6 - 8 months. Then it'll be the "we can't commit the next president to a strategy" strategy.

And George is home free, never having to admit he's wrong. Never having to pull the troops out on his presidency. Never being a cut and run president, never having his helicopter in Saigon moment. Back to Crawford and all his frat boy chums.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 20th, 2007 at 04:11:06 PM EST
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There are two aspects to this surge: military and political. The military aspect is apparently working, even according to Democrat Dick Durbin.

But the point of the military security strategy is to allow for significant progress in political benchmarks. That is where this strategy is not working. The fact that the Iraq Legislature took off the month of August was unacceptable. I cannot imagine there will be significant progress made in the next 30 days on the various political benchmark issues.

General Patraeus was overwhelmingly approved by both political parties, so Democrats will need to be careful not to raise any issues concerning his integrity. But will they have the toughness to hold Bush and Iraq to the commitments they made? So far Democrats have acted as anything but a majority party.

by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2007 at 06:35:28 PM EST
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What with the current Acknowledgement by the British Army that now would be a good time to be somewhere other than Iraq. it still seems to me that Now would be a good time to go on holiday from your elected position, and see how things shook out.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2007 at 07:12:00 PM EST
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:) I think everyone else should have gone on Holiday as well including all the soldiers. I don't know why there was not more outrage over the Legislature's cutting out when they did. It shows how little they are committed to this process and what a waste all this was.
by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Mon Aug 20th, 2007 at 07:29:49 PM EST
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