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You're forgetting the interest rate environment the 1:1 conversion, and all that FDR public debt from the ill-advised conversion and the massive public investment, caused.

Remember, even if these were pre-Euro days, everyone wanting in was in the ERM, and central banks were forced to pursue policies which kept their currencies within an accepted band versus other currencies. So when the Buba raised interest rates, everyone in the currency band raised interest rates. (Well, not everyone - sterling famously didn't, got massively devalued despite Major's chancellor of the exch pissed away billions of taxpayers money in reserves in defence of the pound, making George Soros a richer man in the process.)

This interest rate environment and the resulting strong currencies (the franc was trading at roughly the same as the imputed franc is now) killed off investment and really killed exports. Unemployment rates were 13% in France (and double that in Marseille) as a result; this is why I ended up in the US.

Not saying it wasn't in principle the right thing to do, if of course poorly executed. Just saying it is not at all accurate to say the rest of us didn't pay a steep price for German unification and the Germam's unilaterally decided-upon course of political, economic and monetary policy which resulted.

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by r------ on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 03:21:22 PM EST
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but the matter is, who bore the greater burden, and that is West Germany. Undeniably there were consequences (negative) for the other countries as well.
by PeWi on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 03:30:56 PM EST
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Those consequences were an "externality" given the lack of consultation and the predictability of the effect.

You know what we say around here of "externalities": polluter pays.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 03:32:32 PM EST
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I thought Germany is still the biggest net contributor to the EU?
by PeWi on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 03:47:34 PM EST
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Again, I don't think anyone debates that here.

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by DoDo on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 04:39:02 PM EST
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West Germany payed the most and gained the most, the rest of us payed less and gained less.

A fair, and very, very good, deal.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 03:33:38 PM EST
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Just saying it is not at all accurate to say the rest of us didn't pay a steep price for German unification

I read you to say that other countries bore the brunt of it, or at least that there was a German competitive advantage. I'd say that would be as untrue for the effects of the 1:1 decision as for direct subsidies. Again I don't debate that other countries were affected, or that Kohl's unthought-through solo action was a fatal mistake that lacked the European spirit. (I note though that later Kohl 'compensated' Mitterrand by giving him France's share in the East German pie, e.g. Total and the infamously corrupt fuel station privatisation.)

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by DoDo on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 04:38:12 PM EST
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Agreed, though I would note that German bias has always been to a strong mark, and now to a strong Euro, as that policy directly benefits German industry.

And of course you are also correct on Total viz the former DDR, though it seems to me there was a quid pro quo there. Total paid for this, directly to the Christian Democratic party...

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 04:44:06 PM EST
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Yep, German strong currency and fiscal conservatism policy has domestic roots and interests. On the other hand, what I failed to make clear in an earlier comment is that I saw you mixing up (West) German fiscal conservatism with neoliberal policies (which also preach that budget deficit is evil).

On the black funds from Total to the CDU, yeah, and we still don't know any details -- the dossiers from that period 'mysteriously' disappeared, and the attorneys decided that no one is to blame and there is no case... On the other hand, if my rusty memory of the case is right, even more of Total's payments found their way back into France; a real brotherly mess of corruption :-)

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by DoDo on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 at 04:57:29 PM EST
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