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Considering I eat granola most days and am, as I type, wearing one, of several pair, of Birkies the snarkfest would be self-directed.

Let me put it this way: buried within the innards of the main library are reels of film of Upton Sinclair and other luminaries of EPIC giving speeches, interviews, & so on.  This archival material is one-of-a-kind.  It exists nowhere else.  This film is slowly disintegrating.  In the not too far distant future this film will no longer be able to be preserved.  The librarians would rather see the film disintegrate than allow outsiders to come into their precious stacks (gollum, gollum) and save it.  

This kind of insularity causes people at UCSC to reinforce each others neurosis' until they all turn crazy.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 06:29:56 PM EST
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So... you disagree with me about some unspecified issue, and therefore I must be neurotic and/or crazy due to overlong confinement in a notorious academic nuthouse?  How about specifying the issue and the point of disagreement, rather than this snide ad hominem, which is (a) uncharacteristic in my experience of yr posts, and (b) starting to get a bit irritating?

Anyway, gratuitious (and puzzling) discourtesy aside, I'm still not understanding what the point is.  Far from reinforcement, I don't know anyone w/in my institution or my social circle here who feels the same sense of personal urgency that I do about demand reduction, relocalisation etc;  this is yet another reason why I'm heading out -- to find a (to my way of thinking) more reality-based community.  If there is a collective neurosis in effect at my institution, it manifests (e.g.) as a blind faith that fossil fuel will be cheap forever, so we should go on underfunding the local bus system and building more parking structures :-)

The fate of the film archive you mention is very sad indeed, but NIH and turf behaviour are hardly unique to any one campus or org -- seems pretty universal in my experience.  I could tell some tales out of school about the inter-institutional politics of my own line of work, but perhaps better not to :-)

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 01:49:00 AM EST
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Granted, it's very late here and I have no business being awake, never mind writing anything for public consumption, but, and I'm sure AT will correct me if I'm wrong, I think you and geezer have misread him.  Rather than prima facie discourtesy, I believe he was originally commisserating with you and attempting to give you some hope that things might not seem so bleak after your move.  I suppose the comments could be read both ways, but knowing AT, I'm guessing my interpretation was his original intent.  /butting in

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 04:51:26 AM EST
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Hope you're right, Izzy. As I said, it seemed out of character- even after a couple attempts to elicit a substantive comment failed.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 05:15:47 AM EST
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at first reading I thought similar to Izzy.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 07:41:04 AM EST
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I apologize for not making my communications clear.  

The choices are now:

  1.  Drop it.

  2.  I restate the intended communication.

Your call.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 10:57:54 AM EST
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I say drop it.

If everyone in the subthread agrees, the comments can be hidden by a FPer making them "editorial".

Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK? — The War Nerd

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 24th, 2007 at 11:12:37 AM EST
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