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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 07:49:57 AM EST
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Chemistry often goes to Americans because American make up most of the Chemistry Nobel prize committee. Of course the committee is made up of former prize winners,  so that is a positive feedback loop.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 08:50:49 AM EST
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The Nobel Price homepage says otherwise:

The Nobel Prize Awarders

Who selects the Nobel Laureates? In his last will and testament, Alfred Nobel specifically designated the institutions responsible for the prizes he wished to be established: The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences for the Nobel Prize in Physics and Chemistry, Karolinska Institute for the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, the Swedish Academy for the Nobel Prize in Literature, and a Committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Parliament (Storting) for the Nobel Peace Prize. In 1968, the Sveriges Riksbank established the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economics in Memory of Alfred Nobel. The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences was given the task to select the Economics Prize Laureates starting in 1969.

So it is mostly swedes that decide stuff. However former winners get to nominate.

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 09:41:18 AM EST
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A guy from the Nobel museum interviewed by the morning news said that the reason Europeans are starting to get Nobel prizes again is due to the massive invesments in reseach made by France and Germany in the 70's and 80's, even though the total European dominance this year was also due to luck.

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by Starvid on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 02:37:16 AM EST
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Sounds probable. France recruited lots of people in the 70's, and those people are starting to reach Nobelizable age.

France has mostly stopped to recruit researchers en masse, though. I have no idea about the situation in Germany?

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 06:40:14 AM EST
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Spain carried out a huge expansion of the University system in the 1970's so everyone and their mother got tenure. In the 1980's and 90's the employment outlook has been bleak, leading to a lot of brain drain and many people leaving the field entirely, but all the people who got tenure in the 1970's are going to be retired before 2015 so, assuming their positions are not simply eliminated, there will be another wave of recruitment.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 06:48:51 AM EST
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Stop and go recruiting at its most stupid. The same thing might happen in France.

Well, let's hope the Anglo disease hasn't hit too hard and that those retirments are actually replaced.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 at 08:43:55 AM EST
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tomroud.com » Blog Archive » Devinette
Reponse : Albert Fert, prix Nobel de physique 2007, illustration parfaite a la fois de ce qui marche tres bien et devrait etre ameliore dans la recherche francaise. Il faut dire qu'a sa place, je l'aurais mauvaise : l'intendance industrielle ne suivant pas, les brevets sur la magnetoresistance n'ont pas ete deposes en France. Evidemment, les cretins de tout poil pulullant sur internet n'ont pu s'empecher de critiquer cette fonction publique paresseuse , qui n'est meme pas capable de se reveiller a temps pour deposer un simple brevet. Rappelons donc qu'aux Etats-Unis, les universites ont des services entiers charges de ce travail, afin de laisser les chercheurs faire leur boulot, a savoir chercher (et enseigner). Mais evidemment, tout cela impliquerait en France une vraie politique scientifique, une valorisation des metiers de la recherche en general ainsi que tout simplement, un certain respect pour la recherche fondamentale et ceux qui la font. Malheureusement, le potentiel de resonance de ce Prix Nobel qui aurait permis de mettre ces problemes sur la table sera probablement bien attenue a cause du rugby.

In short, the main reason the French didn't get patents on Fert's inventions is that French universities are so thoroughly underfunded they can't have a team responsible for following the patents applications.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 04:49:13 PM EST
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