Once you start compiling a list of "our values," we start defining ourselves against others, closing them out. I think it's more constructive to leave the door open and address/debate/agree to disagree on certain "values" as the issue of them arises. Not only does it create a interesting discussion, but it also forces you to come back and repeatedly reassess or defend your "values." And doing that can be a great learning experience.

I couldn't agree more. We are defining our values "chemin faisant".

BTW, poemless, I think I'm too often agreeing with you. Couldn't we find a topic about which we might savagely flame each other? Apart from Putin's sex-appeal...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet