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There are a fair few of us who find those labels a bad fit anyway. "Progressive" is just a way of avoiding the bad press attached to 'the left' in the US, liberal is too confusing to use any more and 'left-wing' apparently includes New Labour and Bertie.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 04:34:37 PM EST
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In Spain progresista is not a very good thing either. It has been abused a lot. It is used by the PSOE to avoid calling themselves left. The lefties from the 1960's and 70's acquired the deprecatory label progre and the right wing bloggers call the PSOE or anyone calling themselves progresista a progretarra after etarra (basque for ETA member).

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 04:38:39 PM EST
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I think this is where I am coming from.  All my life people have been trying to label me and I have made it into a bit of an art form trying to avoid those labels.  I know they are only meant to be a short-hand descriptor of roughly where you sit in a spectrum, but they can also be an easy way out for others to dismiss you.  Our arguments have to stand on their own merits and simply saying they are progressive cuts no ice with me whatsoever.  A bad "progressive" argument is worse than a "good" conservative argument because it undermines the "progressive cause".  It can also be a lazy way to gain acceptance when you haven't really made your case at all.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 05:06:34 PM EST
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