First, you are calling for the end of the Jewish State.

If Israel does not like the idea of a unified state with equal democratic rights extended to all its citizens, all it has to do is dismantle its illegal pseudo-annexation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Heck, personally I believe that arms should be twisted on the Palestinian side to make them give up East Jerusalem, but that's just me being silly.

What right do you have to eliminate the self-determination of Israelis?

Huh? What has that got to do with self-determination? They'd have the right to vote. Which is more than can be said for the millions in Gaza City Open Air Prison.

Why are you against a Jewish State Frank.

Oh, I wouldn't know... Maybe for the same reason most sane people are opposed to Christian states, Islamic states, Hindu states and Atheist states.

Second, you are dreaming. Israel would never agree to it.

Quite frankly, you're the one who's dreaming. Israel will agree to anything that the US dictates. It's not like Israel has any other friends it can appeal to for help.

Third, Hamas is suddenly going to respect democratic institutions? Yeah, okay.

You mean like running in - and winning - elections?

Fourth, making the west bank part of Jordan is still the most viable solution.  You are trying to fit a square hole in a round peg.

Only if the illegal occupation is ended. Attempting to turn the current patchwork into a workable society - in Jordan or out - is doomed to dismal failure.

Fifth, palestinians have not shown any ability to run their own affairs.

I'm speechless. Well, not quite. But all the things I can think of would result in friendly little moderation notices showing up in comments.

Before you go on with your revisionist history, I would like to remind you that it has been deliberate, official Israeli policy since before I was born to disrupt the function of the Palestinian government. This is not a wild-eyed conspiracy theory, it's a matter of public record. If you'd bother to abstain from the kool-aid long enough to find the BBC news archive, you'd be able to view hours of video of Israeli tanks driving around on the ruins of various Palestinian government institutions.

Mr. Arafat stole all the money Europe gave him. THe new leadership is no better. Hamas are terrorists.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.