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Well this has been a fantastic and illuminating ding-dong battle! Best I've read in a long time - thanks to Jérôme, Chris and Migu.

I'm amazed at peoples aesthetic objections to wind turbines. To me, they are clearly more beautiful than electricity pylons, high rise apartments, MW towers and skyscrapers. The only reason people have against them is novelty, as you imply.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 01:28:10 PM EST
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Well I've certainly enjoyed it, and with not a troll rating in sight! Just the odd "casual insult", apparently, and those are often just a matter of perception.

Give me a string of wind turbines against a string of spaghetti-festooned pylons any day, but I'm not keen on seeing turbines on high skylines.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 01:47:23 PM EST
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well, my policy is to never ever troll rate someone you're discussing with. Disagreements, even strong ones, should be expressed explicitly. I think we did that!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 02:00:47 PM EST
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Agreed!

Always a pleasure to engage with you...it helps me refine my thinking.

...that's a casual compliment btw ;-)

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 02:18:24 PM EST
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It's funny how people have conspicuously refrained from tipping either of us above. Either they don't understand a thing, or they really don't want to take sides...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 02:48:04 PM EST
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Oh maybe we're both talking bollocks!

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 03:07:15 PM EST
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This was an excellent argument from two professionals. Hard to rate. i don't understand all of it, but I see valid points on both sides. My main bone of contention is that you, Jérôme, demanded factual examples of how this new vísion could work while doing little to explain your own methods. i think we are owed an explanation as to exactly what service you bankers provide, and why it is better than the model that Chris has described.

I know you are a unique and very special banker, but please tell us why you are not like the rest.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 04:07:04 PM EST
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I'm still partial to the idea that the resistance is class based - ie, only the poor should be living within view of power generation.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 03:45:35 PM EST
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