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for the Pythagorean Theorem, but you never can tell, I suppose.  

But did you miss my description of Logic floating on the Fog of Mystery?  

It was the folk I thought cowards who were sure their truths were planted on solid bedrock.  

But accepting a foundation in Mystery is not the same as saying "whatever . . ."

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 11:35:47 AM EST
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I don't buy your description at all. Why do limits seem so appalling to you?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 11:38:11 AM EST
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Limitative results are not appalling, but they do mean your theory has hit a barrier, and you have to ask:  Why?  

The answer to why can be interesting.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 01:39:52 PM EST
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And sometimes it's because there's a barrier there.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 01:40:50 PM EST
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And how many actually said this? If they did due to ignorance that's not same as being a coward. Others may well have just accepted that there were as yet unresolved problems in foundations. I don't see why you talk about "cowards" - without actual examples/evidence, except to justify your "apostasy" ? :-)

I don't think terms like "fog of mystery" are very useful to talk about unresolved issues in sciences. I prefer Bronowski's   play on "tolerance".

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 11:50:33 AM EST
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Also, of course, I said, echoing Bronowski, that it CAN lead to killing people. The point remains that demanding absolute knowledge, based in indubitable foundations is misguided, and those who go on working within science without worrying too much about problems in basic theory are quite sensible. There was no need for apostasy - a term from religion of course where absolute knowledge is claimed and people also kill each other over rival claims to it.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 12:02:07 PM EST
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