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Just found the text of the robocalls.  Pretty tame, all things considered, but still pretty funny, given the whole pot/kettle element.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Jan 30th, 2008 at 08:15:24 PM EST
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The main point of the Robocalls was to take advantage of the lazy reporting of US media, who confuse the so-called "trade deals" that are swapping trade preferences if lower income nations surrender the right to restrict corporate wealth flows into and out of their countries, and entry of China into normal trade relations ...

... but the absurd thing is a Clinton attacking a candidate for supporting a pro-corporate trade decision. Its like Bush attacking someone for being a warmonger.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Jan 30th, 2008 at 10:51:09 PM EST
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Bruce, you're smart enough to realize that consistency has no place among Clintonistas.  But she had to do something, because Edwards was stripping her older white vote away.

I wanted Edwards, but with his exit this race, to me, has essentially become Ned Lamont vs Joe Lieberman.

I'm just hoping we don't wind up with the same result, even though I'd bet we will.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:24:01 AM EST
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Anyone got a take on how the Edwards' vote will break between Clinton, Obama, and "a plague on both your houses?"

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 05:11:43 AM EST
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i suspect it breaks differently in different states, since edwards' support came from a pretty wide range of voters.
by wu ming on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 05:25:31 AM EST
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Most will go to Clinton I guess.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 06:15:14 AM EST
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... go to Obama ... how his support breaks down varies from state to state, and I have no hard info, just a gut feeling that it breaks more progressive than conservative in CA, which will favor Obama.

Obviously, a large number of those who found Obama to be a perfectly acceptable alternative change candidate had already moved over to Obama, so its not surprise if the AP says that its 40 Clinton, 25 Obama, 35 undecided. I'm just saying I would not be at all surprised if its 25 Clinton, 40 Obama, 35 undecided in CA.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:49:43 PM EST
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