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Dangerous lady.
If Edwards becomes President it is vital for the EU to engage him immediately and constructively on trade issues, otherwise a confrontation will be nigh-inevitable.
As for the national governments, I am not so sure. We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
Indeed, automatically labeling opposition to the NAFTA-model corporate wealth agreements as "protectionism" would seem to be a symptom of a chronic form of the Anglo-disease when it spreads among intellectuals. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
The EU will not like tariffs.
On the other hand, I like the potential an Edwards presidency offers to rearrange the institutions and terms of international trade. But we'd have to form a common understanding to do that, and it's crucial do so very early in his eventual presidency.
It was a short trade war which I remember mostly by the tariff on swedish gingerbread cookies. Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
For example, a fight to reform WTO environmental exception treatment to allow a simple ban on tuna fished with the worst dolphin killing nets would attract so much support from various members of the anti-globalist coalition, and take the wind from the sails of a crude protectionist drive. And there is always the recourse to a "hard" negotiation with China to raise their exchange rate against the dollar ... where if it were not to the extent that it involves an increase of the value of the Renminbi against the Euro or the Yen, could well be gained as a victory trophy. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
There are ongoing issues with European restrictions to the sale of GMOs. There will be issues with REACH. There is an arcane dispute on bananas at the WTO, which is absurd because neither the US nor the EU produce significant quantities of bananas. Also, the European Commission blames the US for the collapse of the Doha round negotiations at the WTO on the issue of agricultural subsidies. We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
Neo-liberal is inadequate.
Secondly, your article will not be well received at dkos. No one (a bit of exaggeration) in the US can project international consequences of the presidential election. No one (more hyperbole) on the www is even concerned about Congressional gambits in the '08 election cycle. Perhaps they are waiting until V-E Day, coinciding with canvassing season, to advance an analysis of the president-elect's political capital, so to speak?
I'm glad your cross-posted/ I didn't recommend it, given the commentary thus far. Doing so is an empty gesture. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
aspiring to genteel poverty
This piece was originally written with a European audience in mind, though I modified that slightly for Daily Kos. But it's still in the right place here.
Daily Kos reminds me why I got off Usenet, frankly. Big sea. A constant stream of diaries, most of them seem to be repeating campaign spin from one candidate or the other. With predictable comments. I imagine that it is especially crazy due to the election season.
Still, I appreciate that a number of people liked reading the piece.
There have been 65 diaries after mine at the moment I'm writing this... after 3 and a half hours (I'm reminded, it's time to log off) I expected the orange place to be busy, but this busy...
It'll be worthwhile repeating some points when the nominee is clear and things have calmed down a bit.
Obama has captured the hopes of a huge number of people. Especially important in that is that he has captured the hopes and dreams of the black population who just may show up in record numbers to vote for him. I guess after 8 years of dear leader people are desperate, and hopeful. The pixels are working over time.
You should ask Jerome about posting tips.
I did not go into this flying blind, though... I remember some comment here about when to post on Kos (aimed for 23:00 CET, overshot that a bit), but I can't seem to find that.
But I don't want to bitch too much. For a first diary, it did reasonably well. Next time I'm going to be a bit pithier, a bit more controversial in the intro.
Let's just say that the quality of the feedback here on eurotrib is, as usual, amazing.
In review this morning, I find one directly addressing the prompt: US militarization of Africa, justified by Clinton doctrine as distinct from BHO "exemplarism" (what a novel turn of phrase that is! Not) or JRE "MICtourism" (for want of a slogan -bwah!- to describe his Kemp-Biden-Herzliya orientation to containing nukes; Do you wonder where NATO fits in the "Marshall Corp"?).
I recommended nanne's article here because I expected thoughtful responses insofar as any one is capable of differentiating the POTUS candidates'strategic methods and conceiving of political priorities within the EU. That's a stretch for the average American who is as mystified by back-packing Europe one summer as s/he was once charmed by GWB's inexplicable ability to miss such an "experience."
I believe my prediction is vindicated. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Of course, if a diary hits the reclist, the content/comment ratio often takes a severe negative hit. Its not called the wrecklist for nothing. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
Well neither the psychology of the individual nor that of markets allows constraints defined by economic theory of rational agents.
Say, I've been meaning to report to one of your Biker reports that I've encountered a couple multi-taskers in MD: phoning while pedaling. Is this the seed of a trend? I hope not. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
But ... I don't call those gadgets to allow people to use the mobile in the car "hands free mobiles" ... I call them "brain free driving".
At least if the cyclist is doing it, they are mostly risking their own neck. I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
It's 2000. What kind of world can Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle build?
It's 2008, if Clinton wins, what kind of world will Holbrooke create?
Firstly, I had an epiphany last night that Obama is Sarko
Maybe not so much.
I think that diary nails it to the wall.
Not to suggest the identity is perfect. But I think it explains some of the unease that some people are feeling around Obama.
And it's a feeling I've had myself. I remember arguing with people who Just Didn't Get It in 2000. The feeling I have now isn't quite so obvious and panic-stricken, but it is similar.
There are 300 million Americans. We have an electoral college system instituted at the time of the founding of the nation.
This has consequences. In certain states, the candidates can have a more heady discourse. In others they can't. n Iowa, the Republicans have to pay attention to farming and God. In New Hampshire they don't. This is why Huckabee wins in one state and drags in the next.
The States are nowhere near as fractious as the EU of course, but you can imagine trying to run a campaign for Europe.
I agree with you that there is little substance spoken (although each of the candidates have offered detailed plans that are easily reviewed, seldom referred to for fear of boring the electorate) but this superficiality speaks to the deep fissures in American culture.
Wouldn't this be the bankruptcy of any democracy?
As always, it comes down to education and the media. A critical media and a critical, informed population would be far more democratic than what we have now - anywhere.
To me Obama is like an empty screen or a Rohrschach inkplot - you can project whatever you want, whatever you hope for on him. And my guess is, it will be a rude awakening for those people if he becomes president, because even if he should be a much better president, than my feelings indicate, he will not be able to fullfil these undefined projections on him.
Like so many times before, I really hope to be proven wrong - it would be even a great joy to be proven wrong for a change.
I doubt whether any of them have ever had an original idea in their lives and all therefore go with the ideology foisted upon them by the Corporatocracy.
Except that if and when that ideology is generally perceived to have failed (which it is doing right now) both Obama and Sarko are capable of turning on a policy sixpence and doing something else.
It is the job of ET and others like us to get that "something else" out there. "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
We are so used to people like Blair looking like intellectual giants compared to Bush. Any of Obama, Clinton, Edwards and maybe even McCain would make Sarkozy seem like a very marginal figure in the grand scheme of things. Even Putin has more substance though I'm not sure I like the substance.
The American's sometimes complain that when the want to negotiate with "yurp" they don't know who to ring. I hope it's not Sarkozy because he'd give away the Common Agricultural Policy just for an invitation for a State visit to Washington and a white tie dinner in the white house. Thats why Cecilia had to go and a replacement had to be lined up. Index of Frank's Diaries
I'm well aware of the rhetorical debt BHO owes that creature -- that economic "beacon of opportunity," preemptive doctrine, NIE applications, affordable housing?, energy policy!-- since '06. When I was still commenting at dKos, comparisons were rejected out of hand. BTW, the most peculiar remark in my mind, at any rate, was BHO explicit statement that he agreed with GWB on maximum sentencing.
The perversion of due process in GWB's wake cannot be understated. Most recently I indulged in a lop-sided discursion on creeping unitary theory, specifically the putative adjudicative function of "my"(BHO's phrase) DoJ. And as it happened one week later, Charlie Savage (Boston Globe) filed a survey of leading candidates of both parties. I lurked dkos, seeking coherence on the subject and finding none.
Doubtless the expectations of the American voter, irrespective of race or blog activity, are so low as to be immeasurable. High paradox on the campaign trail of "change," no? I am discomfitted by the notion that the myth of a classless society is at last affixed to personal finance.
Relating Obama to Sarko now is a demographic wonder, a wholy intellectual digression perhaps. All that I'm able to express here is that I was much impressed by Sarkozy's ability to split the left by generation, using "reform" as an axe, serated by promises of marginal "opportunities" for the youth vote. Then, again, I am not as intimately familiar with his rhetoric as I am his um stature.
Suffice to say, should BHO win the office, I look forward to warm coordination between him and the leader of the francophone universe in devising solution to um shared unemployment problems. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
In her book, she called the Cyrus Vance-Lord David Owen plan for Bosnia a "giveaway" to the Serbs, and also she said "it bought them time," even though the Serbs agreed to it as a peace plan.
Now, the Dayton Plan has its flaws, and we may yet see it unravel if the Bosnian Serbian Republic ever manages to secede, but it was the best peace plan that was in place, and Milosevic the horse trader got what he wanted when he traded the Krajina for the Bosnian Serb Republic.
I'm imagining that, since Dayton was so close to Vance-Owen in terms of actual territory, that Power was none too happy with Dayton either.
This means that she may be a maximalist when it comes to foreign intervention. If you're going to scuttle a peace plan like Vance-Owen, then a humanitarian such as Power is not going to stand by and watch 100,000 be slaughtered. That would be hypocritical and ironic. This would mean that she would have favored foot soldiers on the ground in Bosnia combating Serbian militias and paramilitary.
That's an important distinction to make about Obama's foreign policy team.
There are two radically different games being played here
For Obama it was easier. Hillary was the front runner running a typically centrist campaign to try and overcome her partisan image and pull in some independents. Position yourself slightly but distinctly to the left of her. Opposing Iraq was a no brainer if you weren't so obsessed with not being trumped by GOP on national security. First focus on wresting the Dem nomination from the heir presumptive Hillary. Otherwise she had it sown up anyway.
For Edwards the focus was perhaps more on trade and corporatism at the expense of workers. Position yourself slightly to the left of the heir presumptive Clinton on social and economic issues.
In trying to secure her right flank Clinton left herself too exposed on her left flank on both foreign and domestic policy.
2) So what would they all actually do if elected? To an extent they have to at least appear to genuflect to their base which got them into power. So the initial mood music and image management would certainly be different. But very soon the actual election and how it was fought and won is forgotten. Events dictate what happens next and for all I know Clinton could be more radical and decisive than the other two. She certainly has waited a long time for her chance and for her there will be no next time. I don't have a clue what Obama would do except that is focus might be more Asia than Europe. Edwards might be more focused on domestic rather than foreign policy issues -provided events did conspire to force him to focus on trade and geopolitical issues more.
But its all guesswork. You need to have the inside dope on what these guys discuss in private when they are not talking electoral politics. It really has vry little to do with actually being President. Index of Frank's Diaries
It depends also on the results of the congressional elections. First, the number of senators: if the Democrats manage to gain 60 seats or more, they will be in a position to bring change. Second, the number of "left-wing democrats" among the newly elected. "Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
But maybe she's just a better actress.
You're right that we don't really know right now what these candidates will do in face of circumstances and Melanchton is absolutely right in saying that a lot depends on how large the Democratic majority in Congress will be.
But to some extent, we don't have the luxury to take that position ('we' on Eurotrib do, the people in power in Europe, don't). I'd vastly prefer it if we didn't take a sit and wait attitude to what a Democratic President will do, because we'll accomplish a lot less.
It would be irresponsible not to speculate ;-)
nanne:
My guess is tat we have no idea just how good she is, and how good Obama is at being a white screen on which almost anyone can project their favourite fantasies and imagine they are seeing the real deal (i.e. their aspirations in a mirror).
Both qualities are the essence of mass politics and both are supremely good at it. Therefore I caution against imagining that what we are doing here is anything more than analyzing the projected images manufactured by their respective handlers.
I am reminded of the firm "The Candidate" in which a young Robert Redford plays a handsome young upstart idealist who overthrows the party machine and wins a Senate seat. Having been elected he asks, In the final sequence, almost for the first time since his long lost idealistic days "what do we do now?". He is beholden to the machine that elected him, but the process of winning the seat had become an end in itself, and he had long lost the and sold out on the idealism that had led him to politics in the first place. Index of Frank's Diaries
It is very interesting to look at the contributions made by various industries to the financing of the candidates. You can see them on this site: Open Secrets. Take a look at the contributions from lobbyists...
(thanks to Sharon Wraight on Daily Kos) "Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
One needs only to look at the difference in their health care plans to understand that Obama is much closer to the insurance industry on this issue than Edwards is.
Sounds or seems to me a shade of Bush there...
I think the only post-war President who did not effectively wage war was Jimmy Carter. On the other hand, three of these wars - Korea, Iraq (Desert Storm) and Afghanistan - had the required support in international law.
I don't think setting up the EU as a competing block is the solution. The solution is ultimately to strengthen global governance and tie the US into it.
American exceptionalism does not allow for America to be ruled by any "global governance".
Signing up to the Kyoto successor treaty and the International Criminal Court are critical tests for the next US President.
It's a bit like the EU being all very well and good as long as long as it is led on UK lines! Index of Frank's Diaries
The general point being that Global Governance is all very well so long as it is led by the US of A. It's a bit like the EU being all very well and good as long as long as it is led on UK lines!
It's a bit like the EU being all very well and good as long as long as it is led on UK lines!
Now, whether the UK has ever lead the EU is eehm... something that can very well be questioned.
The next decade is going to be interesting, that's for sure. I expect a Democrat to win, but it's really difficult to predict what they might do when confronted with so many big problems at the same time.
GWB repackaged USAID/Peace Corp in his last state of the union address. (USAID is a financial black hole, of course, but have you ever read Chomsky on the US ground game in SE Asia prior to Nam?) Every Democratic candidate since Jan '07 has incorporated a flavor of this quasi-military, "public-private" programming into their foreign policy as distinct from fiscal stimulus platform. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
as for exceptionalism, i thought it was an american affliction until i heard chirac's farewell; apparently there is a fully developped french version.
in any case, i love the site, and think you all should spend a year in some midwestern american town, which is where i live. it is a vastly different place than the america you imagine.
thoroughly enjoy this site; it amazes me how little the posters know about usa for all that they obsess over it;
However, the beauty of this site is that if you do think we are missing out on some exceptional piece of Mid West wisdom, you are free to expound on it with a diary of your own. Patronising people for their lack of knowledge of the US generally doesn't work as well as actually making an effort to communicate your unique insight into its particular charms. Index of Frank's Diaries
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