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I looked at four different things with these candidates

  • Their campaign rhetoric
  • Their foreign policy staff
  • Their style
  • Their record

Based on the overall picture, I do think that Hillary Clinton's position is her natural position. With John Kerry in '04 it seemed obvious that his hawkishness was just a matter of positioning, not so with Clinton. It matches with her style, it matches with her overall record.

But maybe she's just a better actress.

You're right that we don't really know right now what these candidates will do in face of circumstances and Melanchton is absolutely right in saying that a lot depends on how large the Democratic majority in Congress will be.

But to some extent, we don't have the luxury to take that position ('we' on Eurotrib do, the people in power in Europe, don't). I'd vastly prefer it if we didn't take a sit and wait attitude to what a Democratic President will do, because we'll accomplish a lot less.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate ;-)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 05:50:58 AM EST
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You've done all any outsider can do in this situation, and done it well.  Speculation can be such fun but I pine for the insider info!

nanne:

But maybe she's just a better actress.

My guess is tat we have no idea just how good she is, and how good Obama is at being a white screen on which almost anyone can project their favourite fantasies and imagine they are seeing the real deal (i.e. their aspirations in a mirror).

Both qualities are the essence of mass politics and both are supremely good at it.  Therefore I caution against imagining that what we are doing here is anything more than analyzing the projected images manufactured by their respective handlers.

I am reminded of the firm "The Candidate" in which a young Robert Redford plays a handsome young upstart idealist who overthrows the party machine and wins a Senate seat.  Having been elected he asks, In the final sequence,  almost for the first time since his long lost idealistic days "what do we do now?".  He is beholden to the machine that elected him, but the process of winning the seat had become an end in itself, and he had long lost the and sold out on the idealism that had led him to politics in the first place.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 06:23:01 AM EST
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I think we have a better idea of Clinton because, as she keeps insisting, she's been around for 35 years.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 06:31:53 AM EST
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A women with the self-discipline to put up with Bill for 35 years is capable of hiding her true feelings from almost anyone.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 07:03:20 AM EST
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LOL

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 07:10:15 AM EST
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I repost here a comment I made in another diary:

It is very interesting to look at the contributions made by various industries to the financing of the candidates. You can see them on this site: Open Secrets. Take a look at the contributions from lobbyists...

(thanks to Sharon Wraight on Daily Kos)

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 07:15:09 AM EST
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