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She's holding about a 2,000-vote lead, so the percentages will shrink a bit.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 08:50:35 PM EST
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Scratch that.  A bit shy of a 4,000-vote lead.

Clinton 40
Obama 34

Wow.  She may just pull it off.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 08:54:35 PM EST
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If 400,000 voted in the Dem primary, we are still at about 20% of voters (not precints).

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by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:00:42 PM EST
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I suspect the gap will close, but it's going to be a hell of a lot closer than I thought.  Credit to the Clintons.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:03:49 PM EST
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What is interesting is the AP still hasn't called the Dem side of the election even with 31% of the precincts reporting.  That's very unusual.

Everybody is asking, "OK.  Now where does McCain go?"  And they answer, "Who knows?"  So, yes, McCain has won New Hampshire but there isn't a clear path for him winning in either Michigan (Romney has the edge) or South Carolina (Huckabee with the edge.)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:12:22 PM EST
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It is unusual.  I'm surprised.  Are there certain areas we're waiting on?

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:13:44 PM EST
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Belknap, Sullivan counties.

*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:15:49 PM EST
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Rather strong differences between counties: one has 45:32 for Clinton, another 46:30 for Obama.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:18:50 PM EST
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Just seen a reporter on one of the channels say they've been speaking to someone in the Clinton camp, and they were saying that they were a couple of days campaigning away from being certain of winning.

Rare to have someone from inside a campaign say something like that unless they think theyve lost.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:16:56 PM EST
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It's still widening. Now at 34%, 3,400 even without the Kucinich-favouring computer glitch.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:14:40 PM EST
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I don't think Obama's going to pull it out.  I'm a little surprised Edwards didn't do better, too.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:16:59 PM EST
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To the contrary, at this level of participation, one can be happy that a candidate ignored by the media achieves even so much.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:22:05 PM EST
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True, but I expected him to break into the 20s.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:23:43 PM EST
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I suspect he would have had turnout been as expected.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 9th, 2008 at 05:48:03 AM EST
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Independents are the key in New Hampshire and they tend to go to established candidates.  That could be the stronger than expected Clinton support is coming from.

News from the Obama HQ is some areas where they expect to do very well have 0% reporting.  That intimates the voting was heavy and the precincts have to take the time to count the ballots.

Maybe.  We'll find out in a few hours.

Exciting tho', huh?  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:30:36 PM EST
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Very exciting.  Where'd that news from Obama HQ come from?  Radio?

The big story is that late-deciders split between Obama and Clinton.  That was certainly better than expected.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:35:12 PM EST
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WNYC -- New York City Public Radio

Just heard "Some of Obama's strongholds have yet to report"

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:40:45 PM EST
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That might explain it, but I doubt the margin is going to come in that strong.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:42:56 PM EST
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OK, scrag that.

Exit polls are saying Independents went Obama.  It's the woman vote that broke strong for Clinton (47%)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:38:04 PM EST
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37% and 3021 on CNN

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:18:30 PM EST
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Yeah, he's moved up a bit.  Whatever county it is that Concord is in has gone to him now.  It was for Clinton before.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:21:22 PM EST
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Merrimack, 40:36 at 34% counted wne overall was 37%. But Belknap county will decide it all: presently, 0% counted!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:24:22 PM EST
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Maybe no one lives there...
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:26:26 PM EST
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Now 6% counted, and almost dead-even: Obama 32% Clinton 31% (Edwads 21%).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:30:02 PM EST
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42%
Hillary Rodham Clinton       40,090       38.9%
Barack Obama                      37,766     36.6%
John Edwards                      17,145     16.6%

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by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:30:02 PM EST
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Why has Belknap county seemingly not even started counting?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:25:25 PM EST
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He is slowly closing the gap

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:27:12 PM EST
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Actually, he seems to be pretty stagnant right now in raw votes, with about a 2,600-2,800 gap.  Now, granted, we've got 59% of the precincts to go and perhaps a good bit larger chunk of votes, but something tells me Hill's going to take it.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:29:33 PM EST
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It seems counties showing high pro-Obama figures have lower status of counting. Whether that means that Clinton picks up in larger (urban) precints or that Obama will pick up once these counties are counted more, I don't know.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:28:36 PM EST
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He does seem to be closing it suddenly.  (Of course the results would turn when I said something told me they wouldn't.)  We may have quite a fight going here.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:31:16 PM EST
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Apparently women have gone more solidly Clinton than in Iowa.  and one of the  college towns, the Clinton campaign was expecting 4,000 votes, and there have been in excess of 6000, and that has the Clinton campaign worried.

All of the college towns have yet to report.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:31:36 PM EST
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Obama's off by less than 2,300 votes at 42% (36.6 vs. 38.8).

Looks like we won't be able to call this one until 60% have reported, maybe more.

Exciting!

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:30:03 PM EST
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Heh. That last drop for Obama was almost completely due to a gain by Kucinich.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:02:49 PM EST
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Huh? Kucinich back to normal. Apparently, a computer glitch.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:05:38 PM EST
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But before, I watched that lead grow from 800 to 2,200, and now -- that reduction was a blip, apparently -- it jumped to 3,564.

Hillary Clinton    25,463    40%    0    [Democrats]
Barack Obama    21,899    34%    0

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by DoDo on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 08:58:36 PM EST
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Hillary Clinton    26,130
Barack Obama    23,635

Back down to about 2,500.  Looks like each grabbed a good-sized precinct or two.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Jan 8th, 2008 at 09:02:05 PM EST
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