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I see very few survivors in the US, UK, Ireland and swathes of the EU.  Spain may be patting themselves on the back now, but they'll be in the next wave IMHO.

The first country to go will be Iceland, and the Scandinavians will bail them out.

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by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 01:20:18 PM EST
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Oooh, I'd love to see that happen. Might give us a new government.

We've been hearing all about how these Icelanders with all their money have been on a buyout spree all over Scandinavia. Imagine the public reaction if we're then told "uh, dudes, those liberalist superheros on Iceland... Well, they kinda bought our stuff on borrowed money. And, well, now they can't repay. And - uh - need to be bailed out."

Not gonna happen. Nordic solidarity is not nearly as strong as I'd like it to be, even when we're talking justified aid, and our government is taking enough flak for bailing out our own banks without first checking how much it'd cost... I honestly can't see them bail out foreign banks to the tune of a substantial fraction of our GDP.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 at 03:01:18 PM EST
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Looks like this EU thing could be a good idea after all?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 at 03:04:34 PM EST
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The EU is a great idea. But I'd prefer that the Union didn't bail out irresponsible banks under its jurisdiction until and unless it starts taking an active interest in squashing irresponsible banks before they need to be bailed out.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 at 03:24:50 PM EST
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There is lots of talk about Scandinavian banks buying the Icelandic banks (and remember Nordea has quite large state ownership... makes for a "hidden" bailout) - that is, if the Scandinavian banks don't fail first. ;)

Seriously though, the Scandinavian banks do not really seem to have insolvency issues, just liquidity issues.

But I might just have to regret what I just said.

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by Starvid on Mon Oct 6th, 2008 at 11:24:17 AM EST
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The big Scandinavian banks don't appear to have solvency issues. The little local ones... Well, they're at four bankruptcies and counting in Denmark alone.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Oct 6th, 2008 at 04:44:04 PM EST
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