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One thing will be, at what point did McCain lose?  The Veep Nominee?  All Attack All the Time?  Palin interview?  The bank bust?  Could McCain have won if the economy hadn't gone sour?

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She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:23:18 PM EST
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Was he ever really winning?  With the obvious exceptions of his convention bounce and a brief period in March/April during Pastorgate, he never held the lead nationally.  It always ranged from Small Obama Win to "John, I'll allow you visitation rights with your testicles if you don't piss me off too much".

Another poll:  MediaCurves again gives it to Obama by a wide margin.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:27:10 PM EST
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Thinking back, didn't McCain had a couple of days lead, within the MOE, directly after the GOP convention?  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:39:12 PM EST
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Right, the convention bounce.  Lasted -- what, about a week and a half?  Then he crashed to his biggest deficit ever.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:43:15 PM EST
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Don't think it was that long.  I'm going to check the Gallup dailies and see what I can find.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:48:29 PM EST
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Wouldn't do Gallup.  Ras is probably better.  Gallup tends to go insane when big things are happening.  Obama went to +9, followed by McCain going to (I think) +6.  It swung pretty wildly.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:51:31 PM EST
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Too late.  :-)

I don't 'do' Rasmussen.  The site creeps me out with all their weirdo ads.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Thu Oct 16th, 2008 at 12:04:16 AM EST
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You were right:

here is the whole shebang in one graph.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:57:35 PM EST
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He lost by being McCain - all punk in a suit, no genuine gravitas.

McCain is A Certain Kind of Person, and he's just too close to Bush temperamentally and culturally to be credible today.

Being delusional, inept, patronising and entitled is all part of the young-patrician package, but when people's homes and pensions are evaporating before their eyes, that's just not a credible combination.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:33:58 PM EST
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TBG - how did you watch or listen to the debate?  

Interested to see what foreign analysts thought/said.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:43:01 PM EST
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Streaming.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Oct 16th, 2008 at 05:11:39 AM EST
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The insta-polls are the greatest invention since the Interwebz in politics.  After each debate, the talking heads crank up the shilling for McCain.  And each time the insta-polls have shut them up.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:44:25 PM EST
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Isn't it nice?  

One of these days someone is going to flat out say, "You were wrong here.  You where wrong then.  You were wrong then.  Why don't you STFU and wait for the polling."

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:52:49 PM EST
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I don't have a problem with someone arguing against the grain of instapoll results.  Sometimes - on reflection - a win in terms of instantaneous reactions but not in terms of longer term considered reflection.  I do have a problem with pundits who can't present a coherent argument or don't understand their own polls - like that idiot who thought the viewer poll was skewed in favour of democrats when it reflected the actual population of party ID pretty accurately.

Vote McCain for war without gain
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Oct 16th, 2008 at 11:47:56 AM EST
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