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I want to get this out of the way right now.

2000 was not a normal election.  People say 9-11 changed everything, but 2000 may have been just as traumatic.  No American could remember anything like it in their lifetime.  It simply did not happen in America.  It simply could not happen.  The USSC chose the President.  It is my opinion that there is funny business in every election, probably in ever country.  But what happened in 2000 was a bit of an anomaly.  Not because it was unfair, but because of how it was resolved, which has left everyone with the feeling that American democracy is a joke.  But there are elections in this country every year, throughout countless municipalities, counties, states, etc.  And it appears, given the way people are going to the polls like never before, the American people have rethought their opinion that our elections are a joke.  NB:  If Obama loses, it's going to be ugly.  It will def. be another nail in our coffin.  But it is important to remember 2000 in Florida, while it changed the course of world history, was one election, one state, a few counties.

Now, not counting all the votes.

You could be referring to 2 different things.

1.  The way the media does not wait until all the votes are counted before calling a winner, based on statistical probability.

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2.  The way voting machines discard ballots they consider "invalid."  Some systems are set up so that an "invalid" ballot is caught when the voters scans it, and some people cast their ballot not knowing that their ballot will be considered "invalid."  What constitutes "invalid" varies by machine, and is offensively arbitrary.  But it remains a very small percentage of ballots that are considered "invalid", from what I have seen as a poll watcher.

However, every valid ballot is counted.  Election judges are locked in the polling place when the doors close, and must stay until the votes are counted.  They usually compare the computerized tally to a hand counted sample to make sure there was no hacking or computer errors.  Then the tape listing all the votes and the official tally (looks like a cash register receipt tape roll) is given, by hand to the ... uh, election commission, board of elections, I don't know, whoever runs the elections, and a duplicate is posted publicly.  Or, that's how it works here.  So you don't hear about it, but all the votes are actually counted, in my experience.  Above, I noted that there is no standard way of doing these things, so it could be different elsewhere.  But all votes considered valid are counted at each polling site in my experience.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 04:08:16 PM EST
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The way the media does not wait until all the votes are counted before calling a winner, based on statistical probability.

How about the way candidates concede an election before an official result has been announced and then unconcede it and get berated for unconceding when there is no official result yet?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 04:23:40 PM EST
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If you want to write a diary about 2000, you are free to.

I am sticking to explaining my experience of how our campaigns work.  That is what my diary is about.  I thought it might be interesting.  Obviously, it is not interesting to you, Migeru.  That's fine - go read something that interests you.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 04:30:55 PM EST
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Am I not free to reply to a comment as I see fit, poemless?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 04:31:51 PM EST
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Starvid brought up 2000, by the way.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 04:33:02 PM EST
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I had understood that during the 2004 elections, if in a state a candidate's advance was larger that the number of foreign votes, those foreign votes would not be counted...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 06:39:19 PM EST
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That's what I've heard too. Some of my American friends have decided to fly all the way home to the States to be able to vote, just because they don't trust their votes will be counted if they vote at the US embassy.

Scary.

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by Starvid on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 at 07:12:24 PM EST
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