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Europe is supposed to be somewhat Progressive.  Where do I go for a final dose of euthanasia when I want it?  Nothing fancy.  Just a couple pills, lie down, and I'm out of here.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 05:50:02 AM EST
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Twank, don't take this the wrong way!  I have long felt that much of the establishment would like to condemn us to linger as long as possible and to consume as many medical dis-services as possible before dying.  An unholy alliance of fundamentalism corporate interests and a government that caters to both.  We see what has happened to Jack Kevorkian and we saw what the Bush administration did to stymie Oregon's Right to Die law.

I have freaked out many friends by saying that the final act of social defiance is to end one's life on one's own terms, but that is what I believe.  To relatives and others who say that this is for God to decide I have said: "God either doesn't care or is a sadistic bastard." I love life and want to live as long as I can in conditions that are satisfactory to myself, but no longer.  Then I want to be able to drink my cyanide Cool-Aid.  By trying to oppose such self determined actions all these folks are doing is putting pressure on people to end their lives while they still have the power to do so on their own, and earlier than they otherwise would have to do so.

There used to be a Hemlock Society.  Somewhere I have an envelope full of practical information from them.  They appear to have a successor organization.successor organization. I haven't checked them out.  I hope that I have another 20-30 years before I will need them.  I hope by that time that such issues will be dealt with more rationally.  

Hope springs eternal in the human breast.
Man n'er is but is always to be blest.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 09:49:07 PM EST
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Swear to God, sometimes I think I should start up my own religion.  For me, being stuck in the gravity well of this rock (Earth) revolving around one power source (the sun) and helpless to watch as the dominant species destroys the biosphere for themselves and for so many other life forms is either a prison or Hell.  I actually look forward to shedding this flesh-bag I tool around in, just for a CHANCE of finding out what is REALLY going on.

I have my suspicions.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:53:58 PM EST
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Chronic pain saps the will to live.  From what you have posted, I suspect you are all too familiar with this ugly fact.  Meanwhile, take such pleasures as you may.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:23:16 PM EST
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Yup, but it wouldn't be so bad if the dominant species wasn't so ....

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 04:38:29 PM EST
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Yes, that adds the bitter to so many of our thoroughly alloyed pleasures.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 05:44:26 PM EST
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I agree. The ridiculous thing is that in this culture, due to the miserable influence of Christianity, one has to DEFEND the idea. Of course in the classical world it could be a perfectly reasonable and honourable thing to do, though they drew the line at what you might call sentimental suicide:


But the Romans fully approved of what might be termed "patriotic suicide"; death, in other words, as an alternative to dishonour... They disapproved of Mark Antony not because he killed himself, but that he killed himself for love.



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 at 06:49:17 AM EST
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