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Financial Crisis Looms Over EU Leaders' Split on CO2 Reductions | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 11.12.2008
EU leaders began a first round of complex talks on how to obtain massive greenhouse-gas emission cuts by 2020. While some pressed for emergency action, the financial crisis stopped others from committing.

"This is the moment of truth for the climate," Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt said as he arrived in Brussels.

... "What we need, today, is leadership. ... We look for that leadership from the European Union," United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon told delegates at a parallel UN conference on climate change in the Polish city of Poznan.




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by DoDo on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 03:19:15 PM EST
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Opinion: Why Merkel's Climate About-Face Is Bad for Business - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

By Christian Schwägerl

The economy or the environment? That is the choice as Angela Merkel sees it -- and she has chosen the former. But the dichotomy is no longer valid, and Merkel's choice is a grave mistake. These days, one can have both the economy and the environment.



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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 03:19:29 PM EST
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German Environment Minister: America is on a Better Path | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 10.12.2008
The European Union must pay special attention so as not to gamble away its leading position on climate protection, Geman Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel told DW-WORLD.DE

If only his own chancellor would listen...


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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 03:19:46 PM EST
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Gabriel is wrong of course. At least if the goal is to protect the climate.
The EU should refuse to do ANYTHING further to protect the climate, unless most other countries to which our industries can potentially be outsourced agree on an international climate protection treaty. Currently exceptions e.g. on steel mills and concrete producers are helping the climate, not damaging it.

Gabriel repeatedly praised the US before, again in the linked interview. This proves his dumbness, and that the EU has gone too far wrt climate protection. Even he recognises changes in policies more than the policies itself. If this is reflected in international treaties, the EU will always have to make much stronger comittments than other blocks. This is not just unfair, but at some point the EU won't be able to fulfill stricter treaties, while others would have still room to go.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 04:32:24 PM EST
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you could simply impose import duties on "carbon-rich" goods like steel and cement from countries that do nothing to tax carbon at home.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 12th, 2008 at 02:49:16 AM EST
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This would be a good idea, but one can have doubts if this is sufficient.

E.g. if we export steel to the US and China exports steel to the US, EU import duties won't do anything. Only if the economies, that take part in the treaty are much bigger than those outside the treaty, such import duties will force producers to comply with the rules.
And especially for some energy rich industrial products emerging markets are today even more important customers than the developed world. So only protecting the industries from competition in our own markets won't do the job. It maybe an option if everything else fails.

After all, I don't see any reason, why Europe should sacrifice political good will (e.g. abolishing WTO rules) and economic well being (e.g. due to devaluation of our experience and the capital bound in the factories) to pressure countries that will suffer much more through droughts and storms into climate protection. It is in their own interest and the strongest tool to convince is to say we won't act responsible, if you are not as well.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 12th, 2008 at 11:57:08 AM EST
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Merkel and Tusk Meet, Agree on EU Climate Deal | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 09.12.2008
At a meeting in Warsaw, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Polish Prime Minister Tusk said they made progress on a common position toward EU environmental goals. Both want more flexibility.

Gosh...


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by DoDo on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 03:19:58 PM EST
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EU Agrees to Expand Use of Renewable Energy | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 09.12.2008
European Union delegates have laid the groundwork for new law that would boost the use of renewable energy sources to 20 percent of total consumption by the year 2020.

The deal agreed Tuesday, Dec. 9, in Brussels is part of a larger EU climate plan that also aims to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 20 percent and reduce energy consumption by 20 percent over the next decade.

 

EU leaders will fine tune the total package on Thursday and Friday at a bloc-wide summit.

Yawn...


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by DoDo on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 03:20:14 PM EST
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