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BTW, it's not limied to black folks.  Latinos (70%), Native Americans (75%), Asians(65-75%), and GLBT folks (75%) all vote overwhelmingly Democratic.  It has a lot more to do with the Democratic Party having been the party of civil rights, and the GOP being the party of intolerance, for half a century than it does with race.  Obama increased typical Democratic margins among all of them.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Nov 8th, 2008 at 03:40:41 PM EST
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I think you can add jews in your list of communities - don't they vote around 70% Dem ?... There is a difference between getting 60 - 80 % of the vote of a community, and 90-95%. And well, that's part of my point : when a regularly governing party so clearly excludes a large part of the electorate, the democracy isn't all that healthy.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Nov 8th, 2008 at 04:27:34 PM EST
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Yes, 78% of Jews voted for Obama, also higher than four years ago, although there's a worrying bit to that: Jews were the only group in which Obama did better among older voters than among younger voters.  Now, maybe it's simply a large margin of error that's responsible for those numbers, but, still, the "Obama is an Anti-Semite"/Israel-4EVAH meme may have some resonance with younger Jews.

I'm inclined to agree that a share of a group's vote that high might suggest something unhealthy, long-term.  I'm just saying there's a lot of history behind it.  It's not simply blind allegiance.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Nov 8th, 2008 at 04:40:01 PM EST
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Jews were the only group in which Obama did better among older voters than among younger voters.

That may be because of the Likudnik campaign as you see -- but I think a more benign expanation is likely: Jewish immigrants could integrate much better in the USA than various non-whites, thus the choice between the xenophobic and the non-xenophobic party is a less important dimension in the newer generations.

It's not simply blind allegiance.

I'm not sure linca meant it as such.

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by DoDo on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 04:39:29 AM EST
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Not all. The GLBT community (or at least the GL part of that) voted less democratic in this presidential election. Net swing of -11. Though I don't know if the sample could've caused that error. And of course Obama still carried them by around three quarters.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 09:57:55 AM EST
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