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Being "black" in America is more about looks and the experiences that follow looks more than it is about actual ethnicity.  Certainly Obama doesn't look white, and, for better and for worse (as we saw in the campaign), he's not treated as white.  He looks black, identifies as a black American, has surely had many of the experiences of a black American, thus he is black.  But your point is well taken.

I do so wish the press here would stop the flag-waving about us electing someone from a minority group, as though we're the only country to ever do it.  Certainly I took great pride in seeing the reaction from all over the country and many corners of the world, but it's not a great historical first from a global perspective.  It's a great historical first for us, especially given our truly ugly history on race relations.  But just a little less ignorance from the Villagers would be appreciated.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Nov 8th, 2008 at 02:55:33 PM EST
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Not to mention the way they were treated by the law in the past, such as Plessy v. Ferguson ("separate but equal") . Plessy was a  quadroon, i.e., somebody with one black grandparent, and looked white, but was still treated by law as a black.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Nov 8th, 2008 at 03:23:07 PM EST
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Certainly Obama doesn't look white, and, for better and for worse (as we saw in the campaign), he's not treated as white.

But in other matters for much of his life, he was. He is the son of a man from the Kenyan political elite and a woman from US patrician circles -- and was raised by the latter and her parents after the divorce. So, I think Obama is an example of the mix both in descent and culture.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 9th, 2008 at 04:35:02 AM EST
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Well, then I do insist the Swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt is also "black" - as he is 1/32 negro, which means Obama is only 16 times as black as him.

Or maybe Reinfeldt is not "black enough"? ;)


Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Mon Nov 10th, 2008 at 03:52:07 AM EST
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