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The great sadness about all this is that a very worthy cause - seeking justice for the young and marginalised - will be hijacked by thugs, provocateurs and fascists and will, more than likely - lead to an authoritarian crackdown - so that ultimately nothing much will change.  1973 re-visited.

It is such a pity that an EU political demos has not evolved to the point where it can help Greece find a better way of creating a sustainable economy and polity.  Petty nationalists and fascists everywhere will take heart that a collapsing social order will look to authoritarian nationalist regimes to restore "order".

Precisely what can the EU, even post Lisbon actually do to help?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Dec 10th, 2008 at 08:25:55 AM EST
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I am frankly more worried that if we had a stronger EU - but at about the same level of public input - the answer to the question would be foreign or federal riot police sent to Greece to bash the protesters.

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Dec 10th, 2008 at 09:07:25 AM EST
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The fascist issue is valid: the citizens nearly lynching looting immigrants (and then going on a rampage against immigrants in general in the name of law and order) were members of a nazi organization ("Golden Dawn").

However it is impressive how many people are disinclined to generalize about the protests from the havok. Having said that, this sort of blond pillaging points to a new and violent "angry youth" with no future, no political ideas and few family ties to constrain it. That this segment crosses even (parental) class lines to a certain extent, is possibly a Greek particularity (?)...  

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by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Wed Dec 10th, 2008 at 09:11:35 AM EST
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On the Greek Riots > Irregular updates on the situation in Greece, in English
What makes the above story even more unbelievable is that the mainstream media report it as the "local business owners" being the ones who attacked the demonstrators, "taking the law into their own hands". Putting aside the ...minor detail that absolutely no local businesses were damaged (only multinational banks, the courts and the police station), these supposed "shop owners" and "respectful citizens" were depicted in media in their balaclavas, holding knives!


*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Wed Dec 10th, 2008 at 10:03:40 AM EST
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*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Dec 10th, 2008 at 10:04:31 AM EST
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