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Let's face it: the culture of corruption has caught up to the people. Lax tax collection, no land registry, huge bureaucracy, crooked deals everywhere. That rots the core of the country. People who left the country can remember getting taken badly for decades afterward.

In the USA, it only took 8 years of cronyism and corruption to completely tank our economy and send people fleeing to protect themselves.

One wonders how Greece operated this long at all given the noxious mix of government and business.

With high corruption comes a level of cynicism that eventually corrodes the nation's well-being.

by Upstate NY on Wed Dec 10th, 2008 at 10:03:11 PM EST
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Hm, even if not exectly at Greek levels, I'd say cronyism and corruption flourished at federal US level before Bush, too. (Not to mention state and city level, if poemless is to be believed. And not to mention the fact that the way lobbying and corporate campaign finance was/is a legal pastime in the US, corruption and cronyism were effectively legalised.)

Though, for Greek conditions, perhaps the better US parallel is the post-Civil-War period: that was thorough and lasted for decades.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 05:10:18 AM EST
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I can't say I quite agree. of course there is corruption everywhere, but things like cheating on taxes are largely frowned upon and self-policing, until that time it becomes obvious that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. That frays the social fabric and causes ordinary citizens to wonder if they're being taken for suckers. Prior to Bush, this feeling was not so widespread.
by Upstate NY on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 10:45:23 AM EST
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Well yes, it has caught up with people especially since there is no "corruption divident" and clientilst promises don't add up to what they used to.

The cynicism and the corryption has come back to bite its originators. The new underclass, in all its shapes and forms, isn't smiling. Really I can't emphasize strongly enough how different the composition of the violent crowd is from the usual anarchist mobs.

I also add that there is accumulating evidence that some of the protesters are on the police payroll. Stelios Kouloglou, a respected journalist and head of the independent online tvxs report that they saw young men with helmets, hoods and wrenches, chatting and mingling with the police outside a down-town district. There's a blurry cell-phone photo as evidence along with the eye-witness testimony here:



The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Dec 11th, 2008 at 05:23:54 AM EST
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