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Your pictures (here and elsewhere) provoke me to work again in B&W...!
But I find film scanners not good enough (they scan the grain and the dust) and digital doesn't always have the proper range in contrast (even when exposing to the right) !

I'll try again, one of theses days :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 05:06:59 PM EST
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Yeah, that is difficult! I just try to manage with my film scanner (cheapo Plustek) & digital; sadly my teachers want us to work most of the time with digital now since "there isn't time for film"...

I should start practicing colour. And realistic colour, at that. Difficult!

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 05:57:43 PM EST
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Is there such a thing as realistic colour? I don't think so.

Visual languages have to be learned. Realistic depends on what you have been exposed to, or experienced. For colour, study the Impressionists!

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 06:06:14 PM EST
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What's "realistic" color ?

For B&W, I've had better success by shooting the negs with a digital camera... I have a sort of repro flash stand (doesn't seem to exist anymore but you might find some in flea markets) ! Special flash with a diffuser that holds negatives (up to 6x6),a stand for the camera and a macro lens, you shoot and "basta" you have a negative in digital file !

Results are much better as it works as the good old enlarger, with light and optical means, with a distance ! While the scanner is more about surface (and most, even high priced, can't really manage B&W)!

Trouble is, I lent it to a friend and I think he broke the flash lamp and is afraid to tell me !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 06:12:29 PM EST
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Ah, good question, both of you.. what I mostly meant by "realistic": something which I haven't changed completely in Photoshop or by cross-processing. :-)

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 06:21:07 PM EST
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Well, cross processing is a trend, while PS is just as a darkroom (less smelly though) !

There is also a trend in saturated colors ("vivid" they say in manuals), but as Sven said, it's also about culture !
Have you seen any movies from J-P. Jeunet, each has a slight green dominance for drama... He tests his films quite thoroughly and at one time even wanted some 3D software for calibrating some scenes !

I agree however that color isn't easy, most times it goes for a "busy" picture... But you can also almost have a B&W "colored" effect in some...

This was a quick shot in "clair obscur", "The writer" ! (a fellow teacher) :-)




"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 06:48:54 PM EST
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Black gamma raising is my current favourite. It makes images more velvety

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 06:51:23 PM EST
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Well, I've seen Amelie, which I adored, especially the garden gnome.

Wonderful shot.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 07:06:36 PM EST
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You should see "Delicatessen" and "The city of lost children", as they are quite incredible... And a very special form of journalism ! :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 07:21:58 PM EST
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Hmmm, I've actually seen those, just did not remember whose films they were.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 08:38:53 PM EST
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Loved Amelie ... Here's my photo homage to the saturated colour of Jeunet ... :)

Fascinating photos this week, and interesting discussion on B&W!

The Friday Photography Blog series is just wonderful, and I look forward to it every week.

by olivia on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 at 11:56:23 AM EST
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Nice one... Though a bit small :-)

I like the "more then open" feature of the flower with a shallow depth of field !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 at 11:58:31 AM EST
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version

Should have done that in the first post ... :)

by olivia on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 at 12:13:53 PM EST
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Thanks'... :-) Much better indeed !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 at 12:18:36 PM EST
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Hi Olivia. I took a brief look at your website. You have many beautiful photos. I hope to see you here at our photo blog as often as you can make it.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 at 05:15:41 PM EST
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Definitely ... :)
by olivia on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 at 05:32:15 PM EST
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