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For this trip, from a back-of-the-envelope calculation, I think the average could be as low as €60, but €80 in place of the €100 one-way ticket would already look nicer. (BTW, for comparison, could you find the pre-May-2006 price for a Madrid-Barcelona trip? I believe to remember you took one such trip yourself.)

The way I read it, €120 is for direct (and thus faster) M-B trains, so it depends on time, but I'm not sure what you meant by time.

Via libre mentions the 20% discount. It also calls the 60% discount for web purchase "tarifa promocional", does that not mean promotional pricing? (BTW, on the TGV Est, there was a similar promo price -- for first-class, making first-class cheaper than second-class for the lucky.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 06:37:43 PM EST
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A few years ago I got a first-class couchette (around 70 Euros) from Verona to Paris, because the discounted tickets were sold out, and the regular second-class price was 100 Euro. I wonder how widespread this phenomenon is?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:57:32 AM EST
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Actually the SNCF is careful that discounted places for the first class are a bit cheaper than full price second class seats, so as to make sure the first class gets filled up a bit.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:22:35 AM EST
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Looked at more detail, since my link above doesn´t want to turn blue:
2:38 min. trip = €119.50 one way, or €95.60 round trip.
3:24 min. trip = €101.30  OW

so it must make stops and there are many choices for both, M-F.  All, but one, trips on weekends seem to be the longer ones.  It´s a price to make you think twice, but definitely worth avoiding the airport hassles and anxiety, to me.  I hope they don´t start putting the same insecurity controls in train stations, although they already have the databases anyway; at least if you buy on the net/with plastic.

My trip in 2003? was maybe €48? for 9:30 hours in a bunk and it is now €50.50 for the same, while a seat is €38.10.

The 40-60% discounts are new Renfe policy for all long-distance trains, not just ave, with advance purchase and penalized ticket exchanges.  The 20% on round trips has been the policy for several years.

Almost OT:
Ave = bird (family)
Averia = malfunction

When the Ave got to Seville for the 92 Expo, it was already commonly called ´averia´ and it should have been food for thought, but "No! we don´t believe in (pre)destiny... It will fly.", I heard as I was forced to take a flight back to Madrid that October.  (;  Maybe an ostrich (avestruz) would have been a better omen/logo.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 02:56:10 PM EST
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