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I once met a former physicists turned ERP consultant at IBM, who also told me that there was a small energy band between LEP and LHC, that was actually unreachable in LHC (too low for the beam as designed), and there was a tiny chance the Higgs had a mass that would make the LHC miss the finding (but then some boosted linear accelerators should be able to find first)

Pierre
by Pierre on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 04:29:27 PM EST
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That rings a bell, too.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 04:39:41 PM EST
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Oops.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:45:29 PM EST
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I don't think a linear collider will be build any time soon. There is one country in the world which said it would pay a part of it, but likely only a small part and that is Germany, when the gov cancelled a smaller version for DESY Hamburg.

The US recently has cutted financing of R&D. And what was the reason?
The democrats were angry because Bush has vetoed some of their pet projects. As a revenge they cutted spending on some of Bush's pet projects.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:48:42 PM EST
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There are existing infrastructures like SLAC which keep being upgraded in part with private funding, they are not entirely out of the race.

Pierre
by Pierre on Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 at 05:53:46 AM EST
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Ahhh, but you are speaking of the ILC, a superconducting juggernaut of some 50km which can still only reach the puny collision energy of 0.5TeV. Why go for such a thing when the much more attractive possibility of CLIC exist? A delicious 3TeV of electron-positron collisions at ultra high luminocity. No troublesome and gradient limiting superconductive cavities either. With 100MV/m we are far above the theoretical limitations of the enemy competition. First beam? Around 2023, optimistically.

(Me? Biased? Naaahhh...)

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 at 08:03:47 AM EST
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Oh dear, what can the matter be?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 at 08:05:11 AM EST
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So making the 2023 to an 2035 for real operation, when applying the history of the LHC.
And ILC technology is in operation already, while CLIC needs a lot of additional R&D. DESY's XFEL is operated with cavities good enough for an ILC.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 at 08:36:58 AM EST
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