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The optimistic "yes we can" viewpoint might be for Europe to wait quietly until Obama is elected, then, when he calls up for military assistance, to explain to him a carefully thought out and widely agreed European approach to the Middle East. That might include things like a stronger effort to wean the west from ME oil, to stop arms sales, to apply pressure to Israel, Saudi Arabia, India, and Turkey to try to limit their disruptive behavior, and to generally try to make things better. (Better, that is, in the sense of allowing for local governments to come up with local solutions, instead of externally imposed solutions.)

Can Europe do this?

by asdf on Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 at 01:39:02 PM EST
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Likely mostly not. And 'The optimistic "yes we can" viewpoint' is for Americans, we have the pessimistic 'everything goes south' approach.

I'm not aware that there would be a widely agreed approach to the ME, other than talk only do nothing, which is tremendously better than the US approach of make it worse. But if a 'Yes, we can president' can be convinced to do just nothing?

On stronger efforts to reduce dependency of oil, I think any strong climate change policy will include that unintentionally. But that really is one of the points, where Europe really is trying to influence the US and the world.

Talk Obama into pressure Israel will as well not happen. I don't think Sarkozy will do it and I hope you understand that it is impossible for a German gov to ask for such a thing. To Turkey our elite tries to talk directly (neither very skilled, nor very successful; Erdogan has recently asked Turks living 3rd generation in Germany not to become Germans) and Saudi Arabia - well, if the fact that 9/11 included a number of Saudis and that doesn't do it, I don't know what Europeans shall matter. What has India done?

Anyhow, if the answer to Obama's request for troops is a non/no/nein, then I don't expect Obama to care much for any advice given to him.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 at 02:04:43 PM EST
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a carefully thought out and widely agreed European approach
Come again?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 at 06:11:02 PM EST
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