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I listen to this denial drivel all the time, it goes with the territory of what I do for a living.

I was polite the first time, but when the interlocutor is persistent in pressing the mistaken and insouciantly inconsiderate view of "its all the same everywhere" which is, let's be honest about it, a variant on the theme of "sucks to be them," my patience wears pretty thin.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 10:17:00 AM EST
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Yup, a conversation I too had on several occasions in the US.

Them: It is the same everywhere. The problem can't be solved.
Me: No, we don't have homeless in Sweden, beyond the few drunks or drug addicts.
Them: Ahh! But you have such high taxes!!
Me: Yeah. Welfare isn't free, you know. But the problem is solvable. Saying it isn't because it requires high taxes pretty much just makes you a greedy bastard.
Them: No, no, no. We believe private charity can do the job better. I give to private charity! I'm not a heartless, greedy bastard.
Me: Really, yes you are. Clearly the problem requires funding beyond your token private charity provisions. Or it wouldn't exist anymore. As we have a concrete example of it being done better by government elsewhere, your belief in private charity is pretty much demonstrated false.
Them: Yeah, but your taxes. They are so high...

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 11:42:40 AM EST
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Well, they are going down, thank god.

The latest thing is that the EU blocked tax cuts for service workers (thank Brussels, that was a really stupid tax cut) so instead the government will cut employment tax (hidden income tax) from 21 % to 15 % for people under 26. Everyone else pay something like 30 % employment tax (and on top of that the ordinary taxes of 30-50 %).

So yes, it's a good day to be under 26 in Sweden. :)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Wed Mar 19th, 2008 at 11:51:32 AM EST
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