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As flagged on DK right now, EJ Dionne has this in the WaPo this morning:


The Street on Welfare

Never do I want to hear again from my conservative friends about how brilliant capitalists are, how much they deserve their seven-figure salaries and how government should keep its hands off the private economy.

The Wall Street titans have turned into a bunch of welfare clients. They are desperate to be bailed out by government from their own incompetence, and from the deregulatory regime for which they lobbied so hard. They have lost "confidence" in each other, you see, because none of these oh-so-wise captains of the universe have any idea what kinds of devalued securities sit in one another's portfolios.

So they have stopped investing. The biggest, most respected investment firms threaten to come crashing down. You can't have that. It's just fine to make it harder for the average Joe to file for bankruptcy, as did that wretched bankruptcy bill passed by Congress in 2005 at the request of the credit card industry. But the big guys are "too big to fail," because they could bring us all down with them.

Rescuing them is, sadly, probably necessary, but can we please ensure that:

(i) it doesn't happen again (ie reregulate their asses off);
(ii) those to blame are wiped out (grab in public hands most of the equity of all the entities bailed out, forbid the top management of any of them from ever working in banking again, with as few exceptions as possible, kill all golden parachutes);
(iii) both the discourse and the practice of deregulation are blamed for the mess

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 05:53:20 AM EST
Hear hear, and if there could be some regulation over the bonus system that would be good too (if a trader gets some percentage of the earnings in a good year, should he not pay a percentage of the losses in a bad one?).

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 08:56:51 AM EST
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er, yes!

unless of course he has the right connections...

and some damaging evidence up his sleeve, to half-nelson the pols with.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 09:30:50 AM EST
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What an absolutely, astoundingly subversively good idea!

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 03:51:29 PM EST
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Surely it's the case that we should measure necessity on a case-by-case basis, though, isn't it?  Was Bear Stearns really critical to our survival?  (Maybe so, and in that case a bailout is warranted to save the banking system, but I'm skeptical of the apparent need to deem everything on Wall Street as "Too Big to Fail," as we're seeing more and more of in the press.)  As you know, socializing the losses this way has a tendency to sometimes leave taxpayers subsidizing amazing levels of dumbfuckery -- the American air carriers, the American car makers, etc -- as the expense of obviously superior products.  The moral hazard argument is a fair one.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 09:23:53 AM EST
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I don't know why a medium-sized institution whose
main businesses included capital markets (equities and fixed income), investment banking, wealth management, and prime brokerage clearing services.
is critical.

Retail banking and commercial banking are critical, Bear Stearns engaged in none of them.

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 09:28:26 AM EST
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That was my thought.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 09:34:35 AM EST
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Critical to whom?

The people who own it all, of course.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 09:40:29 AM EST
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Fool, watch the pendulum on teevee and repeat, Bear is too big to fail.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 09:50:48 AM EST
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in American politics and economic policy: rich people must not be taxed, and rich people must not lose money.

Why? Because the wealthy pay for elections in Amerika, every part of them which count.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 10:42:31 AM EST
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Well, now, that's JP Morgan.

The previous owners got kicked out and they are not happy.

by Francois in Paris on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 03:35:07 PM EST
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All the more frightening that Bernanke is wasting unbelievable amounts of rate & treasury ammo, defending doomed outposts, and he will be powerless when the real citadels will collapse (think Citigroup, largest bank of the free world ™ by balance sheet).

The guy may have done a lot of econometrics, but he has never read sun tzu.

Pierre

by Pierre on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 11:04:34 AM EST
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I keep hearing hints that Citibank probably isn't worth defending, apart from a purely symbolic effort.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 11:10:57 AM EST
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It appears JP Morgan was interested in buying Bear Stearns primarily because of its prime brokerage business. Should (say) Lehman Brothers fail we'd be talking some serious investment banking (Lehman Brothers is the largest underwriter of mortgage-backed securities), but again still not retail or commercial banking which are the sectors that, if they fail, can send the economy into depression all by themselves.

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 18th, 2008 at 11:14:10 AM EST
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