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However, more practically, should there be a nuclear feed-in tariff, how would that order of importance be reflected?
Today, in zeroeth order, feed-in tariffs establish an equality (at present, of all renewables). On a deeper level, the price level (relative to production costs as well as market prices), the time period it is guaranteed for, influence relative fortunes. So does the relative capital strength of the existing industry: say wind today can live on much tighter margins than geothermal or solarthermal (and I think nuclear could live on even tighter margins).
Then there is the issue of the yearly decrease of price levels. How fast it is, also determines relative fortunes (what decrease R&D in an industry is capable to follow). But there is also the thing that in principle, the ultimate aim is to make the supported production mode 'market-competitive' in terms of average prices [even if average prices is not the basis on which the market really works]. How would this apply to nuclear?
Ultimately, if successful in pushing out existing alternatives, feed-in tariffs bring the supported modes into conflict: a conflict over quasi-guaranteed market shares. This conflict is not apparent when the modes concerned are renewables as yet giving only 5-20% of total generation. (It exists nevertheless -- witness the fights over the 2005 and the next modification of the German feed-in law, wind versus PV and biogas.) But if the issue is 30-60% of generation or more, the conflict will become much more explicit.
On a final note, what do we do about marginal production in the future? I think the ultimate replacement of gas needs a special effort. In that problem, I include France. In my understanding, due to a certain inertia of nuclear, France actually depends on its exports to Italy and France for elasticity. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
As you know, I'm favorable to nuclear, but would still rank it after wind - while saying that it's a necessary part of the mix, at least for the next generation (30-40 years).
As to your point about eliminating gas use, I doubt it's possible or desirable - as the most flexible source, it makes sense to keep gas-fired plants for peak demand, and rapid system adjustments. But that can happen with plants that have only 5-10% effective capacity rates in fine, so the gas consumption will be quite low altogether. I agree that this applies to France as well.
A medium term solution will be the development of things like plug-in hybrid cars, which can provide a LOT of decentralised storage capacity to the network. In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
The last three paragraphs seem to be arguing for leaving a place for wind besides nuclear, which does establish order, but as I implied, I realise you are addressing more vehement nuclear advocates there.
As you know, I'm favorable to nuclear, but would still rank it after wind
Yes, and half of my comment aimed to explore how that ranking should be expressed in practice (with the rest ruminating about whether it even could, with the policy tool at discussion).
as the most flexible source, it makes sense to keep gas-fired plants for peak demand, and rapid system adjustments
Yes, I agree, but in what timescale are you thinking? 10 years, 20 years, 50 years?
A medium term solution will be the development of things like plug-in hybrid cars, which can provide a LOT of decentralised storage capacity to the network.
But they would also mean a significant increase of overall electricity consumption. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
In English, "baseload" is all the pre-determined power. In German, only the constant part of it, while "medium load" is the pre-determined variable power. The first is typically nuclear, lignite and hydro, the second typically [hard] coal; and peak load typically gas and hydro. The issue of balancing also covers the "medium load" part, not just peak load. On the medium term, much of the "medium term" may migrate to peak load and thus gas. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Found it, it was when we discussed geothermal. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
is that a typo, dodo? to whom else does france export electricity other than italy? 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
But Germany is also a net exporter, so they export even more power to Austria and Poland etc than they import from France. Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
But melo is right about the typo, I meant Spain. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
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